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From Lachlan Deck <>
Subject Re: Default/Initial values && post validation delegates etc
Date Tue, 12 Sep 2006 02:08:12 GMT
Hi there,

On 07/09/2006, at 4:22 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:

> On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Lachlan Deck wrote:
>> On 06/09/2006, at 5:46 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>> Custom values set on the server during commit are not passed back  
>>> to the client (except for the PK). It would be nice if they  
>>> where, so that's something we may consider doing in 3.0.
>> Yes please.
>> But we're not talking about commit are we? I was talking about  
>> init... what happens when creating a new object on the client? Do  
>> any initial values set on the server get propagated back?
> Yes, I am talking commit, since commit is the first time when a new  
> object created on the client is sent to the server. Until then it  
> sits on the client and server has no chance of participating in its  
> lifecycle.
> What happens on commit is this:
> * Client transfers the information about an object as a bunch of  
> "diffs".
> * Server instantiates a server-side object from those diffs.
> * Server commits its DataContext.

Okay - that's good to know.

After looking at the source for CayenneContext.newObject (and non- 
public CayenneContext.createNewObject) it seems to me that overriding  
setPersistentState (as suggested: 
display/CAY/Setting+Initial+Values) is a bad idea, esp for new  
objects. i.e., at the point of being NEW the object's ValueHolder  
vars have not yet been initiated, it doesn't yet have a handle on the  
context, it's global id has not been set, and it's not been  
registered with the graph manager etc. Simply put, bad stuff happens  
when messing with the objects ValueHolder vars prior to all of this.

Last effort question is: does the following call within  
createNewObject(ObjectId) create some sort of event that might  
provide a hook-in point for when the object has been properly created  
and inserted into a context? "graphManager.nodeCreated 

If not - maybe I can put a vote in for a delegate method being added  
which is called just prior to the object return. ala  
awakeFromInsertion(ObjectContext) :-)

with regards,

Lachlan Deck

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