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Clemmensen" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.8) Hi Geert, We will take a look at the crashes.=20 But since luckily it doesn't crash on Linux, the JDBC issues can still = be reproduced per CAY-2574 (and they are more essential for Cayenne = support). So no need to wait for us on the crash report :)=20 Thanks, Andrus > On May 2, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Geert B. Clemmensen = wrote: >=20 > Hello Andrus, >=20 > Thank you for getting back to us. >=20 >> FB crashes a lot on MacOS >=20 > Huhm, what version of FrontBase and MacOS are we talking about? = FrontBase is in 24x7 use on MacOS also in mission critical systems and = is never crashing. I=E2=80=99m not sure what is going on, but if we can = get a reproducible case, we will of course investigate. Start FrontBase = with the -logSQL option, reproduce the crash(es) and make a compressed = copy of the database directory (/Library/FrontBase/Databases/.fb). Send the compressed file to ftp.frontbase.com. >=20 > Once the crash(es) situation is =E2=80=9Cfixed=E2=80=9D, we can take a = look at the JDBC issues. >=20 > Regards, > Geert B. Clemmensen > FrontBase, Inc. >=20 >> On May 2, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Andrus Adamchik = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Sven and FB support! >>=20 >> As the subject says, this is about supporting FrontBase DB (further = referred to as "FB") in Apache Cayenne. I cc'd Cayenne dev list to keep = the community in the loop. >>=20 >> Some background.. Due to many people in the Cayenne community coming = from Apple WebObjects technology, Cayenne is probably the only ORM = (outside WO) with explicit support for FB. However for a long time now = we had various problems running our test suite against FB, and we even = made a move to deprecate and remove Cayenne FrontBaseAdapter [1] (now = reversed). >>=20 >> Recently I had an f2f meeting with FB developers and users during a = WebObjects event in Frankfurt, and now I know for sure there's still a = community around it. So it makes sense to continue supporting the = adapter. However we need to address a number of issues for it to work = smoothly. So we took a closer look at what fails. The first thing we ran = into was that FB crashes a lot on MacOS. We solved this by wrapping it = in a Docker container (effectively running it on Linux), so this is no = longer a problem for us.=20 >>=20 >> However we still can't run the Cayenne test suite due to a number of = issues. We documented the initial blockers here [2], all related to the = FB JDBC driver. >>=20 >> @FB support: can you help us with those? We can continue this = discussion going in Apache Cayenne Jira, but feel free to post to this = list as well. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Andrus Adamchik >>=20 >>=20 >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAY-2525 >> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAY-2574 >>=20 >=20