From dev-return-10848-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@cayenne.apache.org Fri Jan 12 07:34:33 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@eu.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@eu.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA62180621 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:34:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id DAB1B160C33; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D177160C30 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:34:33 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 69767 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jan 2018 06:34:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cayenne.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 69748 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jan 2018 06:34:29 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:34:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 41B2B1A0F2E for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:34:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.801 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=objectstyle.org header.b=fNLyOE0y; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=GOnZjkys Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vubG5OqtTq9z for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8FE775F36A for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C42E20C74 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:34:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=objectstyle.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=9TKht/A8pE86SnDFCMUrZLrC1P A6lBeg2gVY+9sEmRs=; b=fNLyOE0yUUoXy5Wce9EbPNp4MIOK+ThS7pKZTJ/Vns tdE9drGO4nnAbmgedbIuyor16lMl1msC2YVuhZdUfQOqah8IPhGTvFzqZAjRIm66 a689ZeIQx8fOa979MQJhgxvQ8FMEPqXDwfnSqxrA+guDK2DKM9IDefqNks+dDcr6 c= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=9TKht/ A8pE86SnDFCMUrZLrC1PA6lBeg2gVY+9sEmRs=; b=GOnZjkyshT5pPiIuoprO3j QfYB9HTCcmiPoOHhDCnI/VsilcheK1XPhTwH4WRBSUUOwxZ2KxsP6tZIHRDVSQgp HoVh3/x10fAQPfzK96k8Z0RBaZVLb3dfTpVr4sxbLuNmoRrxp651D/Njlw1qcp6u lDBOb484mao04z+W+GEEin8VV7yxgxHLhYSzoCTUH+1Vc+ETBLwk2eyzP5mNJaxP ienObLTyAdIP+kjJUK7sHkYPbQ2cHEa10MmmM7WtkWUElBZh7Dw4qy4yPZcVIP0m 6R5WGcWTXkqIUqWEmIAr6PgO0/MalLWugmpVn3JRrAF543YziUZJIg+/Qozfy2Rg == X-ME-Sender: Received: from [192.168.1.168] (unknown [37.17.49.228]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 993E8246CC for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 01:34:20 -0500 (EST) From: Andrus Adamchik Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Subject: Re: New Cayenne website design Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:34:19 +0300 References: <21DA84F2-F8EB-48C5-99A7-CF96676E8170@objectstyle.org> <0565218f-aff2-c2af-8ced-9d4303ed32fa@maniatis.org> <69B2D0E5-B386-49A4-9742-B38D773A2DD0@objectstyle.org> <775dd5dd-31e7-1a9f-6920-ec37cf3922ce@maniatis.org> <42D2F2A8-036A-4EFA-AFE1-503050FBE500@objectstyle.org> To: dev@cayenne.apache.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) > On Dec 29, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: > >> Also anyone remembers, did we come up with a better slogan to replace "ORM >> with character"? >> > > "Persist your world"? I like the sound of it, but would like the slogan to be more ORM specific. > "Relational persistence and modeling for Java"? That's descriptive. A few more random thoughts: "ORM - the good parts" "ORM .. the way it was meant to be" (too pretentious?) "smooth Java ORM" Andrus