From dev-return-10852-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@cayenne.apache.org Mon Jan 15 19:11:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@eu.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@eu.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26712180657 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:11:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 140CD160C31; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C95D160C1C for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 19:11:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 90838 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jan 2018 18:11:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cayenne.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 90826 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jan 2018 18:11:08 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id CAF07180633 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:11:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.879 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.879 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d02BxaFcoKyc for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-f43.google.com (mail-lf0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B6B275F2FD for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-f43.google.com with SMTP id y71so14354925lfd.12 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:11:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8xNj/NTnqZgzCRO+Ys79YQN3NpzD8ILsMTmAc9GM98g=; b=XcWodBY00UjV23S6vjyqd+stoR6pfSCpZTn7tQbOsLrpGiO66+4oVg10Rcyfbs9oEn jtew7Bh3yhYzyEyPEZhQkFeDt/7+gNd42CasM5hkwvUzf+cJfoynifUvIGVCrq2pvSKf ufhVowZSLTSbPiF5cUqSunAahwG0lRhiyRC92UcxIja6+qBNi3XDLOcOFjX4dipaRna3 +mqSdTTni6BqSCp855wkBgKi7boVF2KP21l4oRPrdAfZz+F0zfxYWse9zngm/lbBZmz7 kLwJApuDMT3w1mQTnqYf0W7XICKvLZsjDJ7HZYhMTKimy4NoEovQf/C+kmKfa4AiYWNP acbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=8xNj/NTnqZgzCRO+Ys79YQN3NpzD8ILsMTmAc9GM98g=; b=p/ZU39RJuMVuBIfEx2kJY6plzFsrht10l7K7fA3Pj6jDZzha1Qh2aULs4QV9MPEn4j eK4Fa+wEDb5OURzcklSjGvcRwnrI+r7+rniMLnGVmqXjtKCfy22A5Ss7/xagKjOl1l8f yKkOljyeZqXgR7Ia1bMN466xxzkxgYN2hDFdJq3HQu6/PHRkZNDC+j7L01LEnmFdJ/7h lB5ffpfVzFE823Kc8wm1px53q2uL8CKX/T+3FpALSnz3byIVdu0YNcTCkxbSNcbJAb0Y c04Ar1w3gU7nImBjpjdx8t0/rSDkxoDdG9+UIV/XWHkw2cFUS71xBOpZ44alKf5h9303 Sf8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytcsYbyh3sZikzt824yowOWPD3ObRjj7cgzz7UGLDB4bZ73LAGJN VrsSkbNQZ4T3cgEpG+OzqScPZf1EfFDW93Gc7gi3moZf X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotGjJKrR6c3EznG1uVWoixr3+zV42G3S/8eMWkZYe42/ZgW8mYrd7hWzxd7+F3G6YzK7Ci5XHaGcVyVZb5WJB0= X-Received: by 10.25.89.202 with SMTP id n193mr3143897lfb.94.1516039864376; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:11:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.167.2 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jan 2018 10:11:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <21DA84F2-F8EB-48C5-99A7-CF96676E8170@objectstyle.org> <0565218f-aff2-c2af-8ced-9d4303ed32fa@maniatis.org> <69B2D0E5-B386-49A4-9742-B38D773A2DD0@objectstyle.org> <775dd5dd-31e7-1a9f-6920-ec37cf3922ce@maniatis.org> <42D2F2A8-036A-4EFA-AFE1-503050FBE500@objectstyle.org> From: Lon Varscsak Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 11:11:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Cayenne website design To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11412b7894e4150562d48928" --001a11412b7894e4150562d48928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" "pretentious and judgmental" is my middle name! ;) On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 1:34 AM, Andrus Adamchik > wrote: > > > > > On Dec 29, 2017, at 6:57 PM, Michael Gentry > wrote: > > > "Persist your world"? > > > > I like the sound of it, but would like the slogan to be more ORM > specific. > > > > Yeah, I was just thinking something short and simple, but it isn't terribly > descriptive. > > > > > "Relational persistence and modeling for Java"? > > > > That's descriptive. > > > > And here I was trying to be more descriptive to give someone a clue as to > what it was about. :-) Could shorten it a bit, perhaps, with something > like, "Java persistence and modeling" or "Java ORM persistence and > modeling." > > > > A few more random thoughts: > > > > "ORM .. the way it was meant to be" (too pretentious?) > > > > Yeah, that one seems too pretentious and judgmental. > --001a11412b7894e4150562d48928--