Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD6B01841D for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50430 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2016 15:28:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 50410 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2016 15:28:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cayenne.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 50398 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2016 15:28:13 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:28:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 3285F180475 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:28:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.001 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=masslight-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XR5T61MVpDps for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:28:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 9FEA343A36 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id u188so219001430wmu.1 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:28:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=masslight-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=RmA8aO/Yceuml+AvWhkDUT6XU93V9ZxzhSgx5PZ5/H8=; b=ArL+EDYGH6gOYTBAQodLbaDUlglEQYYcNrPkboKl4awNNuBP1DVsZDruqbPhEnmt7s YuPxSlbPyIWlBvdm5VmhU1CJRHmZDNR65P1gwdqjWttqjHy3puHVamODaz7H4ATISgf7 u/0aTxD8oychkollQrVaMi5fkNzXfcKnli5Y4uynC3HLcy2V+HdlPlREbzfTfTSVeXAZ n9gk+wXnfGalctPq5wZVX2sWSz/ZmkIesbfl+G2/5lQn+hgY5kTEZoR6AvJSJyH7jZAE rqKJizXWUjgqv0rqL1CizCPMDtu+Tw2brO58sbwCsdyji82NU2snJ4Zt67WAV4V4hjIt wzoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=RmA8aO/Yceuml+AvWhkDUT6XU93V9ZxzhSgx5PZ5/H8=; b=gf+TqPD6pI+AyY9BUb1U1bbuCbRPgzNM4YzhW6+VpRvKgQhmnVWdPkvJoYyXtGIWFH d8d1oGsED/RNp3AwKjGiUC1WA6a+6D/xBzfN1dlB1zg6M48QiXfo3TLOV8s+yZP65et0 UOtcw9iNgpqogRigPxhP7hAroB7MRPFnadGtJ6l/xLekbQv7RpWkzZAFBGNJYI08x11r TKkwsrOX3DVjJ6UBvVuT5+g/qr+/P3LWvMZQSKTtTbNQ+tOQxuEGBBD4CsDdxHOUKcdI 2UeMjH9qioqKzhEohxB07QGXvpc1tcBYoj0ynsN43rEL+qrBDnh7ZrHQoz/hQyHtO2ko 3blg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl8ISRvPEWoQRNziLrEQE0+tA0misojCEvhhCJ4Gf9vYOjAvTZk2Lp8zofwLZ0BJQXOb33pwVc7AztsKR2O00MfbK3euQ== X-Received: by 10.28.172.193 with SMTP id v184mr15387970wme.94.1452526083496; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:28:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.55.208 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:27:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9D6B1FFF-10A8-41B8-A4B5-7B798C8911C6@karlmenn.is> References: <1B4FDD19-EAC4-446A-8BA5-4558AFADA2EE@gmail.com> <9D6B1FFF-10A8-41B8-A4B5-7B798C8911C6@karlmenn.is> From: Michael Gentry Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:27:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CM Thoughts To: Cayenne Developers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140d7443c155d05291095e6 --001a1140d7443c155d05291095e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if SWT made it easy/easier to do that. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > EOF=E2=80=99s Entity Modeler is also provided as a standalone application= . That > seems like a winning situation, where the modeler can be run either withi= n > the Eclipse environment or as an app. > > - hugi > > > > > On 11. jan. 2016, at 13:50, Michael Gentry > wrote: > > > > Well, using SWT doesn't mean it has to be an Eclipse plugin -- it can b= e > > like Apache Directory Studio, which is a standalone application. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Gmail wrote: > > > >> One problem with moving to an eclipse platform/plugin is that it adds > >> another barrier to adoption by devs who don't use Eclipse. We have a > lot of > >> IntelliJ IDEA users here. > >> > >> Tony Giaccone > >> > >>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Michael Gentry > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'd like to start a conversation about future improvements for CM. > >>> > >>> My current wish list: > >>> > >>> - Java Entities > >>> - Class Level: > >>> - Ability to add extra imports. > >>> - Ability to add interfaces implemented. > >>> - Ability to add JavaDoc. > >>> - Ability to add annotations. > >>> - Attribute Level: > >>> - Ability to add JavaDoc. > >>> - Ability to add annotations. > >>> - Relationship Level: > >>> - Ability to add JavaDoc. > >>> - Ability to add annotations. > >>> - Ability to drill-down through relationships.* > >>> - DB Entities > >>> - Table Level: > >>> - Ability to add comments (for DBs that support comments). > >>> - Column Level: > >>> - Ability to add comments (for DBs that support comments). > >>> - Relationship Level: > >>> - Ability to add comments (for DBs that support comments). > >>> - Ability to drill-down through relationships.* > >>> > >>> * Llike EOModeler, in the left-hand navigation pane. You could keep > >>> expanding the relationship tree to expose other entities/relationship= s. > >>> > >>> > >>> We've also previously chatted a bit about if we even want to keep > >>> maintaining the current form of CM. If we did want to overhaul the > >>> implementation, what route should we go? > >>> > >>> - JFX (Seems like Oracle's ugly stepchild and I question their > >> commitment > >>> to it.) > >>> - SWT > >>> - Eclipse Plugin (The WOLips route.) > >>> - Electron (Used by Atom and Visual Studio Code, among others.) > >>> > >>> > >>> Your thoughts greatly appreciated! > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> mrg > >> > > --001a1140d7443c155d05291095e6--