Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F38018E7C for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23494 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2016 13:49:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 23468 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2016 13:49:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cayenne.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 23456 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2016 13:49:21 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:49:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 655861A09F1 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:49:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.001 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.001 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=masslight-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iZACeQiEh7IY for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com (mail-wm0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id ECF5D258C7 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id u188so215101182wmu.1 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:49:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=masslight-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=2M0D/PtNcImA3cDxMMmgByNdAFOG7mx5MkJSBlpjUGI=; b=KqZgdYXy0KRBJN0iEp8xCmGkxy8j/box5wXD33kh5lwiHRF/H+eKstkQi2cI7AHpsu +yIl4fXf7NXPEkPwKBeyAXgYgvPw1f2NfjTjwj0C5Nz1PC+SfwLjRO/OvQGZn1hhnWnG 0tPhkWit+Z8lKaBP/z/TsH9vmMjSquv92gOhFvaqZfb9DxhyvtqboBOxjfh5z8fjqJ4Q JENsRed+mCQFln+aY55xRhmFgQ/tF61dG+Zplod61uO2wdNFGjYFJ1ry6gG+VgLwsDBN OoqbeH9Ct0HKEcuzHAApsuLvIn4vyGCB6l9EsH7vvWsqktPPJY1BMQtjzzSOp7L5nO2O Fa+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=2M0D/PtNcImA3cDxMMmgByNdAFOG7mx5MkJSBlpjUGI=; b=Ez1e0ocYsXoWl5w31G6/ykX/aMlpXzxMMvqhfJcxDSP0BYM7MuNrGufv53CNkZXBKB A/MyeoLdbatWQMwAAT1G/sn1LEmUTmqMg2NqQ3dlpZlA7agh13tsRteM3IB4Vy0qx8ix BfDsdyAS2UHRp00Yjfl3Vj/D+uxHfAvPOePYME9Q8FRAVFhMWToW5TOLiJXXkwIKRVE/ /CM4HHHJIfKJ0w/mTLB/bHMQgL/t26gV7+tLMPBzbsmJxh1SugJ0iOCSfg5DunJdgFLa 5LiJH7919cYb1mqwNUeSXmKJyWeFSuvW1zbD7PFFnpgqTah5pdwFuNkLQpanPyY+WYJH ZFFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkKwXcFvdYYGjQJ9K67aqd50ZAe2Uw1wUdGge+Y8JynDlQGXc75I/qLuvP2AJ5JV4i1DBB/KWgDi5dGZePkzcQkkay6Rg== X-Received: by 10.194.222.135 with SMTP id qm7mr134808425wjc.106.1452520151597; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:49:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.55.208 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jan 2016 05:48:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <568C44F2.6090702@maniatis.org> From: Michael Gentry Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:48:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CM Thoughts To: Cayenne Developers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3aed6aa5ded05290f33fa --001a11c3aed6aa5ded05290f33fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've thought a bit about creating a Tapestry/Web version of CM in the past and it always seemed like it would be just a bit too cumbersome to launch/secure. I'm not sure if a JFX/JS version would be any simpler or if it would even have value over a straight Electron version. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Aristedes Maniatis > wrote: > > > To my mind, there is only a small gain in moving away from Swing and > quite a bit of work. But if you had the time to put into it, JavaFX is most > likely to survive another 15 years from the options you give above. > > It appears that JavaFx is also usable from javascript, which might be > another reason to use it -- maybe the modeler could run on a web page. > No idea if that is really practical though as I have never tried > anything like that. > > > https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/scripting/nashorn/javafx.html > --001a11c3aed6aa5ded05290f33fa--