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From Aristedes Maniatis <>
Subject Re: Change audit framework
Date Wed, 23 Sep 2015 10:20:50 GMT
On 23/09/2015 6:09pm, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> We'd send them to Apache Kafka, so that other internal apps can process them sequentially
at their leisure.

Some random thoughts that this raised in my head...

I guess many people are pushing this to:

1. A database in a json field, so that works except that you might want one json object per

2. A database with a real schema (eg. some sort of polymorphic joins to all other tables in
your main schema). This could give you an in-application real view of changes, per record.

3. elasticsearch (it has a restful json http interface and also a native Java client)

4. One of the thousands of noSQL key-value databases out there

5. A log file to disk

6. syslog server?

Some message broker like ActiveMQ, JMS, Kafka, RabbitMQ, log4jv2 etc could be in the middle,
but that's just really a buffer to get the data to somewhere else, like one of the options

People might have very different needs around failure modes too...

* fail fast and don't stop the main Cayenne processing thread. That is, if the message broker/other
database fails to return quickly, don't prevent the commit returning control to the application.
Possibly even try to attempt the storage in a separate thread.

* if the audit message fails (say your message broker is dead), then raise an error and try
to roll back the transaction. I'm guessing it is too late for Cayenne to help with that.


Aristedes Maniatis
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