Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C40C877B6 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 01:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37966 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2011 01:59:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cayenne-dev-archive@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 37947 invoked by uid 500); 9 Oct 2011 01:59:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cayenne.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cayenne.apache.org Received: (qmail 37939 invoked by uid 99); 9 Oct 2011 01:59:13 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:59:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [59.167.240.32] (HELO fish.ish.com.au) (59.167.240.32) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:59:06 +0000 Received: from [10.29.62.3] (port=54536 helo=Aris-MacBook-Pro.local) by fish.ish.com.au with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RCiez-0000zW-0I for dev@cayenne.apache.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:58:37 +1100 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A150204.4E90FFCD.008B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Message-ID: <4E90FFCA.9040803@maniatis.org> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:58:34 +1100 From: Aristedes Maniatis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cayenne.apache.org Subject: Re: Deleting doc wiki spaces References: <4924AAB8-2327-4B2F-8661-DD2D708679F8@objectstyle.org> <640DF9E1-87F9-486C-A3BC-0BBAEEE80B38@objectstyle.org> In-Reply-To: <640DF9E1-87F9-486C-A3BC-0BBAEEE80B38@objectstyle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I am happy to put in some time, but I'd like to understand the process better first. We have three things we publish: 1. Confluence website (maybe one day Apache CMS, but that's another issue) 2. docbook docs 3. javadocs (3) used to be built out of my p.a.o account, but recent changes there has meant that is no longer building (2) needs some automated mechanism to build and publish. Should that be jenkins (not the most reliable!) and then a p.a.o script to publish to www? (1) continues to tick another as is, until I have time to spend on learning Apache CMS, navigating a bunch of obscure Perl, etc. As for old CAYDOC, I don't see why we'd want to delete old documentation. That is still useful. Google rankings are something else again and easily solved with a robots.txt in our root. I just did that now, wait 60 minutes for it to publish. As soon as the new docbook contains all the documentation from the current Confluence docs, then sure, let's replace the trunk documentation with docbook. We'll figure out if infra want us to publish using Jenkins, p.a.o or something else. I'll go ask there now. Cheers Ari On 9/10/11 2:38 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > Of course also would be cool if we can start publishing HTML from 3.1 Docbook to the site instead, but that would require some styling work. > > Andrus > > On Oct 8, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >> Since the Docbook experiment is a success, there'll be no more plans to write 3.1 docs on Confluence. All other versions of the docs are more or less frozen. We'll still keep SVN version of the HTML docs (in 3.1 - until the docbook is finished). >> >> This means we can delete all CAYDOC spaces (CAYDOC, CAYDOC12, CAYDOC20, CAYDOC30). Among other things this will improve our Google ranking as we can delete phantom autoexport stuff at https://cwiki.apache.org/. >> >> Any objections to the plan? If there's none, I'll do it next Tuesday morning. >> >> Andrus > -- --------------------------> Aristedes Maniatis GPG fingerprint CBFB 84B4 738D 4E87 5E5C 5EFA EF6A 7D2E 3E49 102A