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Subject: Re: Value of starting the Modeler from Maven
From: Andrus Adamchik <andrus@objectstyle.org>
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:47:11 +0300
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Robert, Thanks for offering help. Let's maybe start by analyzing the =
list of dependencies that come out from external repos (e.g. by =
commenting out all references to such external repos in all poms, and =
trying to build both Cayenne and the Modeler with a clean local repo). =
If we are lucky and can find all the sources, we can prepare the bundles =
and submit them to Central:

=
https://docs.sonatype.org/display/Repository/Uploading+3rd-party+Artifacts=
+to+Maven+Central

If not, we'll setup Nexus on ObjectStyle.=20

So the use of ObjectStyle repo will be minimized (and since we are =
relying on it already, it won't get any worse for the users who are =
blocked now).

Andrus

On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Michael Gentry wrote:
> A problem with the ObjectStyle repo, at least for us, and I suspect
> others, is it isn't trusted by our firewall and we can't download
> through it.  They opened the main Apache repos for us, but most
> everything else is locked down.
>=20
> mrg
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Robert Zeigler
> <robert.zeigler@roxanemy.com> wrote:
>> I'm on OSX.  And I often use the mvn plugin.  I do a lot of =
from-command-line work, and the plugin does a good job, usually, of =
finding the model files for a maven project.  Combined with some wrapper =
scripts, I can be anywhere in the project directory structure and open =
the modeler in an instant.  I'm willing to put in the time/effort to =
keep it up-to-date, but we would still need to resolve the dependencies =
problem.  Do we put them in objectstyle's repo. and add a reference to =
the repository in the modeler plugin's pom?
>>=20
>> Robert
>>=20
>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 7/68:07 AM , Michael Gentry wrote:
>>=20
>>> Would it surprise you that I found at least two guys here running CM
>>> out of Maven?  I hope so, because it surprised me.  This was on OS =
X,
>>> too, and it looked pretty pathetic.  I've since convinced them to =
use
>>> the .app, but there are definitely people out there who use it from
>>> Maven.
>>>=20
>>> mrg
>>>=20
>>> PS. That's not to imply supporting it is a requirement.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Andrus Adamchik =
<andrus@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>>>> On top of our other woes with certain Maven deps not being =
available on central, we have to support starting the Modeler from =
Maven. E.g.: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAY-1580 So I am =
coming back to the question of "do we care to support =
maven-cayenne-modeler-plugin":
>>>>=20
>>>> http://cayenne.apache.org/doc30/maven2-modeler.html
>>>>=20
>>>> ? We had a discussion about it some years ago, but I am still =
puzzled who would use it.
>>>>=20
>>>> If we decide that we need to keep supporting it, somebody needs to =
take care of the deps. If we fail to submit them all to central, one =
option may be rolling out a real Maven repo manager on objectstyle.org =
(probably Nexus) and start maintaining all our dependencies there.
>>>>=20
>>>> (maybe this is the question for the user list also)
>>>>=20
>>>> Andrus
>>=20
>>=20
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