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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: Oxygen Licenses (was: Re: Maven: Use of repository)
Date Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:15:52 GMT
I haven't used Docbook, but I've heard good things about it. I feel like it will be a good
fit for the docs. 

But what about the website (pages under CAYSITE space in Confluence - home page, downloads
page, dev guide, announcements blog, etc.)? These pages are not "docs" and have different
requirements (no need to distribute in PDF) and they can benefit from no-delay publishing.
So I'd give ASF CMS a try for CAYSITE. Maybe we start by migrating this much smaller piece
to ASF CMS and with that experience in mind make the decision about the docs (CAYDOC, CAYDOC30)?


On Apr 26, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> Hey guys,
> good news: Oxygen will support Cayenne with free licenses. They just
> need to know how many licenses we need. I now need to know who would
> like to step up. Please give me your full name and your apache id, i
> will then provide a list to the Oxygen guys who will in turn provide
> you the license.
> Of course we/you should decide first if we really need them :-)
> Cheers
> Christian
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <> wrote:
>>>> we should start thinking about switching to the new ASF CMS.
>>> I've spent a lot of time over the last year working with docbook and am
>>> finding it really rather nice.
>> I had a time where I compared Forrest with Docbook and finally found
>> Docbook very interesting myself. It can be generated to plain html and
>> one can send patches. This are my strongest requirements. Besides, its
>> easily editable and quite easy to learn.
>>> rather than crafting it into html around the design.
>> This is also true for the CMS.
>>> This means, amongst other things, that we can
>>> easily produce pdf/html/etc formats. I have lots of examples if people are
>>> interested in seeing it.
>> Right this is a very interesting option. As I understood Cayenne is
>> made to be easy for the end customer, a downloadable, complete PDF
>> guide is probably not the badest idea.
>>> The main downside, is that all the docs need to be rewritten. And that's
>>> lots of lots of work. The best docbook editor available is Oxygen Author
>>> (not a free product).
>> I have asked the Oxygen guy if they are willing to give out a few
>> licenses to Apache people. Lets see, sometimes they do things like
>> that.
>>> I'd be happy to set up the basic structure of the
>>> docs, the build scripts and a few pages. But I'll not have the time to
>>> rewrite all the pages. If the consensus is yes to docbook, I am happy to get
>>> the first part done.
>> If the first part done, I guess the rest comes step by step. My guts
>> say docbook might be a very good choice
>> There are also Apache Forrest, Mvn Site, Piwi etc available for such
>> tasks. But I think Docbook is the most stable and powerful tool out
>> there. Mvn site is good, but also very basic.
>> Cheers
> -- 

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