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From Andrus Adamchik <>
Subject Re: split expressions
Date Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:05:19 GMT

On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:

> Come to think of it, what is the difference between your new Key  
> typesafe class and Path, other than a few dots...

One is a "domain object", and the other one is a DSL expression (see  

Bridging that distinction is actually somewhat of a fundamental  
problem for us at this point, and I am looking for good ways to solve  

The problem is that from a user perspective a number of things in  
Cayenne can be represented either as a String in a domain specific  
language (DSL:  
or as a domain object, i.e. an object that is easy to manipulate via  

Consider the two DSL cases are Expressions and EJBQL. In both we are  
using a parser to create an "abstract syntax tree" (AST:

  of them, and then use AST as a domain object. The problems with  
AST's as domain objects are these:

* ASTs are generic and not very intuitive for direct manipulation in  
API. A good analogy would be DOM trees vs. real object models  
represented by those trees.

* ASTs often have slight differences in structure compared to an ideal  
domain object. This is more pronounced in EJBQL, that has AST's for  
SelectClause and other irrelevant nodes on the tree (irrelevant to the  
user of course)

* Due to the use of JavaCC as a parser, we have this odd looking  
method names inherited from the parser Node class (e.g.  

So we need some common approach to bridging the "DSL serialization  
gap" for making EJQBL usable, and making Expressions more usable.


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