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From Russell Bateman <>
Subject Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!
Date Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:50:30 GMT
I ask Cassandra to be a database that is high-performance, highly 
scalable with no single point of failure. Anything "cool" that's added 
beyond must be added only as a separate, optional ring around Cassandra 
and must not get in the way of my usage.

Yes, I would like some help with some of what's listed here, but you 
should understand that most shops adopting Cassandra are already going 
to have DevOps/database management personnel, expertise, methods, 
protocols and, in some instances, tools already in place. Even the small 
shop I work in has guys saddled with taking care of Cassandra (I'm a 
developer and not one of these guys) and seem not to share these 
concerns because they've already got it covered (like the specific YAML 
configuration complaint).

If there were an option or two I'd like to see, one would be the ability 
to duplicate data centers exactly (as part of what we stipulate when 
creating our KEYSPACE), but this is probably something I want because of 
what we were doing up until or what we wanted when we adopted Cassandra 
for our future product direction. I would also like to see an option in 
Cassandra configuration for absolutelylocking out access to certain 
commands (like DROP TABLE, DROP INDEXand DELETE).

 From my point of view as a developer, I've had to do many of these 
things also for MongoDB, PostgreSQL, MySQL and other databases over my 

I'm not criticizing these concerns and suggestions. I'm just pointing 
out that, in my opinion, not everything said here is in the realm of, 
"duh, Cassandra needs to grow up."

There's so much right about Cassandra, from the great, unequaled 
technology to the very liberal licensing model without which I could not 
be here.

Russ Bateman

On 02/18/2018 10:39 PM, Kenneth Brotman wrote:
> Cassandra feels like an unfinished program to me.  The problem is not 
> that it’s open source or cutting edge.  It’s an open source cutting 
> edge program that lacks some of its basic functionality.  We are all 
> stuck addressing fundamental mechanical tasks for Cassandra because 
> the basic code that would do that part has not been contributed yet.
> Ease of use issues need to be given much more attention.  For an 
> administrator, the ease of use of Cassandra is very poor.
> Furthermore, currently Cassandra is an idiot.  We have to do 
> everything for Cassandra. Contrast that with the fact that we are in 
> the dawn of artificial intelligence.
> Software exists to automate tasks for humans, not mechanize humans to 
> administer tasks for a database.  I’m an engineering type.  My job is 
> to apply science and technology to solve real world problems.  And 
> that’s where I need an organization’s I.T. talent to focus; not in 
> crank starting an unfinished database.
> For example, I should be able to go to any node, replace the 
> Cassandra.yaml file and have a prompt on the display ask me if I want 
> to update all the yaml files across the cluster.  I shouldn’t have to 
> manually modify yaml files on each node or have to create a script for 
> some third party automation tool to do it.
> I should not have to turn off service, clear directories, restart 
> service in coordination with the other nodes.  It’s already a computer 
> system.  It can do those things on its own.
> How about read repair.  First there is something wrong with the name.  
> Maybe it should be called Consistency Repair.  An administrator 
> shouldn’t have to do anything.  It should be a behavior of Cassandra 
> that is programmed in. It should consider the GC setting of each node, 
> calculate how often it has to run repair, when it should run it so all 
> the nodes aren’t trying at the same time and when other circumstances 
> indicate it should also run it.
> Certificate management should be automated.
> Cluster wide management should be a big theme in any next major 
> release. What is a major release?  How many major releases could a 
> program have before all the coding for basic stuff like installation, 
> configuration and maintenance is included!
> Finish the basic coding of Cassandra, make it easy to use for 
> administrators, make is smart, add cluster wide management.  Keep 
> Cassandra competitive or it will soon be the old Model T we all 
> remember fondly.
> I ask the Committee to compile a list of all such items, make a plan, 
> and commit to including the completed and tested code as part of major 
> release 5.0.  I further ask that release 4.0 not be delayed and then 
> there be an unusually short skip to version 5.0.
> Kenneth Brotman

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