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From Benedict Elliott Smith <>
Subject Re: External linking Was: Isolation in case of Single Partition Writes and Batching with LWT
Date Tue, 13 Sep 2016 11:07:31 GMT
Again: *dev list*.

"Please Note: These requirements apply to Apache projects: that is, to
committer and PMC behaviors* and actions within the context of
collaboratively building software products at The Apache Software
Foundation. By definition here, "Apache project" means the collaborative
activity of *building a software release* called an "Apache product" here
at the ASF."

My emphasis.  This document expressly limits its applicability, both in
terms of individuals and activities.  *Neither* of these scopes apply here,
so you have no basis for your actions.

It is, in my view, shameful to try to strong arm a community to your will
without even reading the rules you think you are applying beyond a cursory
glance to check they confirm your prior held beliefs.

Again, and now with *your own* justification, I ask you to stop.

On 13 September 2016 at 11:35, Mark Thomas <> wrote:

> On 12/09/2016 19:22, Jim Ancona wrote:
> > Mark,
> >
> > Is there some official Apache policy on which sites it's appropriate to
> > link to on an Apache mailing list? If so, could you please post a link
> > to it so we can all understand the rules. Or is this your personal
> > opinion on what you'd like to see here?
> >
> > Thanks!
> The relevant policy quote from [1] is "... Apache projects are required
> to govern themselves independently of undue commercial influence." which
> is expanded on in [2].
> One of the elements of [2] is that perception is important. If a project
> is not independent of commercial influence, or there is a perception
> that that is the case, then that is an issue.
> In the majority of cases, external links are fine. If the project docs
> don't cover something, more depth is required than is available in the
> docs, a different perspective on the same topic is better suited to the
> problem at hand, etc. are all fine.
> It is links that can give the impression that the official Apache
> Cassandra docs are hosted by an external entity that are a concern. Such
> links increase the risk that the perception is created/re-enforced that
> the entity that hosts the external site has some special status within
> the project and that falls foul of the 'no undue commercial influence'
> requirement.
> Mark
> [1]
> [2]

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