Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 35956 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2011 16:24:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2011 16:24:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 42001 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2011 16:24:56 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-user-archive@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 41977 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2011 16:24:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 41969 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2011 16:24:56 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:24:56 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jeremy.hanna1234@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.172] (HELO mail-gx0-f172.google.com) (209.85.161.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 16:24:50 +0000 Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so370348gxk.31 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:24:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=lpf0TPyvotcSWfNoKs6pRSNwYHPVxLf4CiHPwS/Eu/w=; b=QSbJXR7Uh0IV5HcnQKPcQVgZ/Dq6Nd2veYz1nNU9Pmsvp8lwsMn2xEn9a/SNaw+yEW 47GteKOsC8wfgha0vWqh/Z23mTVTNG+NemOSWXMeaUFVrPdnAjJO8BtKtAgtCwgpYs8i 1vl4alcVwhib6YNycWprLhK5l72fIVdX/ZZp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=VXsMPM0+tXyZSH+yqDc6Ev/7XnAYj5bdTKp59+MhyzCNhEqI2ovnF0FoWFRU9yZfl5 wVS8FpvB9aRlBLrZTQYtTdyl34OncwaE5z1aOQyYc0PY6IJk28ic2Wdi5nm8cC/DuPDZ +Uciud05nvd5IJaXacQAbeiPO2hIWmHLr7ozA= Received: by 10.100.244.36 with SMTP id r36mr2869019anh.125.1299687869354; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.14] (rrcs-24-227-244-61.sw.biz.rr.com [24.227.244.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d14sm2639769ana.0.2011.03.09.08.24.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:24:27 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: Aamzon EC2 & Cassandra to ebs or not.. From: Jeremy Hanna In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 10:24:22 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: user@cassandra.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) I've seen both sides but Cassandra does handle replication and bringing = data back is a matter of bootstrapping a node to replace the downed = node. =20 One thing to consider is availability zones and regions though. What = happens if your entire cluster goes down in the case of a single = datacenter going offline? =46rom what I understand ec2 availability = zones are equivalent to physical datacenters so going across = availability zones will handle an entire datacenter going down. Regions = are another level of safeguarding against this. Anyway, just some = thoughts. Some considerations are also found in the Cloud section of this page: = http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/CassandraHardware On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Sasha Dolgy wrote: >=20 > well, this is what i'm getting at. why would you want to back it up = if the cluster is working properly? backup is silly.... ; ) >=20 > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:54 PM, William Oberman = wrote: > I'm considering similar issues right now. The problem with ephemeral = storage is I don't know an easy way to back it up, while on an EBS it's = a simple snapshot API call. >=20 > Otherwise, I believe the performance of the ephemeral (certainly in = the case of large or greater, where you can RAID0 multiple disks) is way = better than EBS. >=20 > will >=20