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From Benjamin Black...@b3k.us>
Subject Re: How to perform queries on Cassandra?
Date Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:53:11 GMT
I have no idea what problem you are trying to solve.  You are
misunderstanding a number of things about the Cassandra data model and
about how we are explaining it is best used.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, vineet daniel <vineetdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well my initial idea is to use value  as column name, keeping key as an
> incremental integer. The discussion after each mail has drifted from this
> point which I had made. Will put it again.
>
> we want to store user information. We keep 1,2,3,4.....so on as keys. AND
> values as column names i.e rather than using column name 'first name', i'd
> be using 'vineet' as column name, rather than using 'last name' as column
> name i'd be using 'daniel'. This way I can directly read column names as
> values. This is just a thought that has come to my mind while trying to
> design my db for cassandra.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Benjamin Black <b@b3k.us> wrote:
>>
>> Row keys must be unique.  If your usernames are not unique and you
>> want to be able to query on them, you either need to figure out a way
>> to make them unique or treat the username rows themselves as indices,
>> which refer to a set of actually unique identifiers for users.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM, vineet daniel <vineetdaniel@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > its not a problem its a scenario, which we need to handle. And all I am
>> > trying to do is to achieve what is not there with API i.e a workaroud.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Benjamin Black <b@b3k.us> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A system that permits multiple people to have the same username has a
>> >> serious problem.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:12 AM, vineet daniel <vineetdaniel@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > How to handle same usernames. Otherwise seems fine to me.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Dop Sun <sunht@dopsun.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As far as I can see it, the Cassandra API currently supports
>> >> >> criterias
>> >> >> on:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Token – Key – Super Column Name (if applicable) - Column Names
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I guess Token is not usually used for the day to day queries, so,
>> >> >> Key
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> Column Names are normally used for querying. For the user name
and
>> >> >> password
>> >> >> case, I guess it can be done like this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Define a CF as UserAuth with type as Super, and Key is user name,
>> >> >> while
>> >> >> password can be the SuperKeyName. So, while you receive the user
>> >> >> name
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> password from the UI (or any other methods), it can be queried
via:
>> >> >> multiget_slice or get_range_slices, if there are anything returned,
>> >> >> means
>> >> >> that the user name and password matches.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If not using the super column name, and put the password as the
>> >> >> column
>> >> >> name, the column name usually not used for these kind of
>> >> >> discretionary
>> >> >> values (actually, I don’t see any definitive documents on how
to use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> column Names and Super Columns, flexibility is the good of
>> >> >> Cassandra,
>> >> >> or is
>> >> >> it bad if abused? :P)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not sure whether this is the best way, but I guess it will work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dop
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From: Lucifer Dignified [mailto:vineetdaniel@gmail.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:33 PM
>> >> >> To: user@cassandra.apache.org
>> >> >> Subject: Re: How to perform queries on Cassandra?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Benjamin
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'll try to make it more clear to you.
>> >> >> We have a user table with fields 'id', 'username', and 'password'.
>> >> >> Now
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> use the ideal way to store key/value, like :
>> >> >> username : vineetdaniel
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >> password : <password>
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> second user :
>> >> >>
>> >> >> username: <seconduser>
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >> password:<password>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and so on, here what i assume is that as we cannot make search
on
>> >> >> values
>> >> >> (as confirmed by guys on cassandra forums) we are not able to
>> >> >> perform
>> >> >> robust
>> >> >> 'where' queries. Now what i propose is this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Rather than using a static values for column names use values itself
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> unique key as identifier. So, the above example when put in as
per
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> be.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> vineetdaniel : vineetdaniel
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <password>:<password>
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> second user
>> >> >> seconduser:seconduser
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> password:password
>> >> >> timestamp
>> >> >>
>> >> >> By using above methodology we can simply make search on keys itself
>> >> >> rather
>> >> >> than going into using different CF's. But to add further, this
>> >> >> cannot
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> used for every situation. I am still exploring this, and soon will
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> updating the group and my blog with information pertaining to this.
>> >> >> As
>> >> >> cassandra is new, I think every idea or experience should be shared
>> >> >> with the
>> >> >> community.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hope I example is clear this time. Should you have any queries
>> >> >> feel
>> >> >> free
>> >> >> to revert.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Benjamin Black <b@b3k.us>
wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry, I don't understand your example.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Lucifer Dignified
>> >> >> <vineetdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Benjamin I quite agree to you, but what in case of duplicate
>> >> >> > usernames,
>> >> >> > suppose if I am not using unique names as in email id's .
If we
>> >> >> > have
>> >> >> > duplicacy in usernames we cannot use it for key, so what should
be
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > solution. I think keeping incremental numeric id as key and
>> >> >> > keeping
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > name
>> >> >> > and value same in the column family.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Example :
>> >> >> > User1 has password as 123456
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cassandra structure :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1 as key
>> >> >> >            user1 - column name
>> >> >> >            value - user1
>> >> >> >            123456 - column name
>> >> >> >             value - 123456
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I m thinking of doing it this way for my applicaton, this
way i
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > run
>> >> >> > different sorts of queries too. Any feedback on this is welcome.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Benjamin Black <b@b3k.us>
wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You would have a Column Family, not a column for that;
let's call
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> the Users CF.  You'd use username as the row key and
have a
>> >> >> >> column
>> >> >> >> called 'password'.  For your example query, you'd retrieve
row
>> >> >> >> key
>> >> >> >> 'usr2', column 'password'.  The general pattern is that
you
>> >> >> >> create
>> >> >> >> CFs
>> >> >> >> to act as indices for each query you want to perform.
 There is
>> >> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> equivalent to a relational store to perform arbitrary
queries.
>> >> >> >>  You
>> >> >> >> must structure things to permit the queries of interest.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> b
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:34 PM, dir dir <sikerasakti@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I have already read the API spesification. Honestly
I do not
>> >> >> >> > understand
>> >> >> >> > how to use it. Because there are not an examples.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > For example I have a column like this:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > UserName    Password
>> >> >> >> > usr1                abc
>> >> >> >> > usr2                xyz
>> >> >> >> > usr3                opm
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > suppose I want query the user's password using SQL
in RDBMS
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >       Select Password From Users Where UserName
= "usr2";
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Now I want to get the password using OODBMS DB4o
Object Query
>> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> > Java
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >      ObjectSet QueryResult = db.query(new Predicate()
>> >> >> >> >      {
>> >> >> >> >             public boolean match(Users Myusers)
>> >> >> >> >             {
>> >> >> >> >                  return Myuser.getUserName()
== "usr2";
>> >> >> >> >             }
>> >> >> >> >      });
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > After we get the Users instance in the QueryResult,
hence we
>> >> >> >> > can
>> >> >> >> > get
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > usr2's password.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > How we perform this query using Cassandra API and
Java??
>> >> >> >> > Would you tell me please??  Thank You.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Dir.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Paul Prescod
>> >> >> >> > <paul@prescod.net>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> No. Cassandra has an API.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/API
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:00 PM, dir dir
>> >> >> >> >> <sikerasakti@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Does Cassandra has a default query language
such as SQL in
>> >> >> >> >> > RDBMS
>> >> >> >> >> > and Object Query in OODBMS?  Thank you.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Dir.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:01 AM, malsmith
>> >> >> >> >> > <malsmith@treehousesystems.com>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> It's sort of an interesting problem
- in RDBMS one
>> >> >> >> >> >> relatively
>> >> >> >> >> >> simple
>> >> >> >> >> >> approach would be calculate a rectangle
that is X km by Y
>> >> >> >> >> >> km
>> >> >> >> >> >> with
>> >> >> >> >> >> User
>> >> >> >> >> >> 1's
>> >> >> >> >> >> location at the center.  So the rectangle
is UserX - 10KmX
>> >> >> >> >> >> ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> UserY-10KmY to
>> >> >> >> >> >> UserX+10KmX , UserY+10KmY
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Then you could query the database for
all other users where
>> >> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> each
>> >> >> >> >> >> user
>> >> >> >> >> >> considered is curUserX > UserX-10Km
and curUserX <
>> >> >> >> >> >> UserX+10KmX
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> curUserY
>> >> >> >> >> >> > UserY-10KmY and curUserY < UserY+10KmY
>> >> >> >> >> >> * Not the 10KmX and 10KmY are really
a translation from
>> >> >> >> >> >> Kilometers
>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> >> degrees of  lat and longitude  (that
you can find on a
>> >> >> >> >> >> google
>> >> >> >> >> >> search)
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> With the right indexes this query actually
runs pretty
>> >> >> >> >> >> well.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Translating that to Cassandra seems
a bit complex at first
>> >> >> >> >> >> -
>> >> >> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> >> >> try something like pre-calculating a
grid with the right
>> >> >> >> >> >> resolution
>> >> >> >> >> >> (like a
>> >> >> >> >> >> square of 5KM per side) and assign every
user to a
>> >> >> >> >> >> particular
>> >> >> >> >> >> grid
>> >> >> >> >> >> ID.
>> >> >> >> >> >> That
>> >> >> >> >> >> way you just calculate with grid ID
User1 is in then do a
>> >> >> >> >> >> direct
>> >> >> >> >> >> key
>> >> >> >> >> >> lookup
>> >> >> >> >> >> to get a list of the users in that same
grid id.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> A second approach would be to have to
column families --
>> >> >> >> >> >> one
>> >> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> maps
>> >> >> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> >> >> Latitude to a list of users who are
at that latitude and a
>> >> >> >> >> >> second
>> >> >> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> >> >> maps
>> >> >> >> >> >> users who are at a particular longitude. 
You could do the
>> >> >> >> >> >> same
>> >> >> >> >> >> rectange
>> >> >> >> >> >> calculation above then do a get_slice
range lookup to get a
>> >> >> >> >> >> list
>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> users
>> >> >> >> >> >> from range of latitude and a second
list from the range of
>> >> >> >> >> >> longitudes.
>> >> >> >> >> >> You would then need to do a in-memory
nested loop to find
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> list
>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> users
>> >> >> >> >> >> that are in both lists.  This second
approach could cause
>> >> >> >> >> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >> trouble
>> >> >> >> >> >> depending on where you search and how
many users you really
>> >> >> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >> some
>> >> >> >> >> >> latitudes and longitudes have many many
people in them
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So, it seems some version of a chunking
/ grid id thing
>> >> >> >> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> better approach.   If you let people
zoom in or zoom out -
>> >> >> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> >> >> could
>> >> >> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> >> have different column families for each
level of zoom.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm stuck on a stopped train so -- here
is even more code:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> static Decimal GetLatitudeMiles(Decimal
lat)
>> >> >> >> >> >> {
>> >> >> >> >> >> Decimal f = 0.0M;
>> >> >> >> >> >> lat = Math.Abs(lat);
>> >> >> >> >> >> f = 68.99M;
>> >> >> >> >> >>          if (lat >= 0.0M
&& lat < 10.0M) { f = 68.71M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 10.0M &&
lat < 20.0M) { f = 68.73M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 20.0M &&
lat < 30.0M) { f = 68.79M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 30.0M &&
lat < 40.0M) { f = 68.88M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 40.0M &&
lat < 50.0M) { f = 68.99M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 50.0M &&
lat < 60.0M) { f = 69.12M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 60.0M &&
lat < 70.0M) { f = 69.23M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 70.0M &&
lat < 80.0M) { f = 69.32M; }
>> >> >> >> >> >> else if (lat >= 80.0M) { f = 69.38M;
}
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> return f;
>> >> >> >> >> >> }
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Decimal MilesPerDegreeLatitude =
>> >> >> >> >> >> GetLatitudeMiles(zList[0].Latitude);
>> >> >> >> >> >> Decimal MilesPerDegreeLongitude = ((Decimal)
>> >> >> >> >> >> Math.Abs(Math.Cos((Double)
>> >> >> >> >> >> zList[0].Latitude))) * 24900.0M / 360.0M;
>> >> >> >> >> >>                        
dRadius = 10.0M  // ten miles
>> >> >> >> >> >> Decimal deltaLat = dRadius / MilesPerDegreeLatitude;
>> >> >> >> >> >> Decimal deltaLong = dRadius / MilesPerDegreeLongitude;
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> ps.TopLatitude = zList[0].Latitude -
deltaLat;
>> >> >> >> >> >> ps.TopLongitude = zList[0].Longitude
- deltaLong;
>> >> >> >> >> >> ps.BottomLatitude = zList[0].Latitude
+ deltaLat;
>> >> >> >> >> >> ps.BottomLongitude = zList[0].Longitude
+ deltaLong;
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 16:30 -0700, Paul
Prescod wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/4/9 Onur AKTAS <onur.aktas@live.com>:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm trying to find out how do you
perform queries with
>> >> >> >> >> >> > calculations
>> >> >> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > fly without inserting the data
as calculated from the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > beginning.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Lets say we have latitude and longitude
coordinates of
>> >> >> >> >> >> > all
>> >> >> >> >> >> > users
>> >> >> >> >> >> > and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > we
>> >> >> >> >> >> > have
>> >> >> >> >> >> >  Distance(from_lat, from_long,
to_lat, to_long) function
>> >> >> >> >> >> > which
>> >> >> >> >> >> > gives distance between lat/longs
pairs in kilometers.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not an expert, but I think that
it boils down to
>> >> >> >> >> >> "MapReduce"
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> "Hadoop".
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think that there's any top-down
tutorial on those
>> >> >> >> >> >> two
>> >> >> >> >> >> words,
>> >> >> >> >> >> you'll have to research yourself starting
here:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MapReduce
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  * http://hadoop.apache.org/
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  * http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HadoopSupport
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I don't think it is all documented in
any one place yet...
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  Paul Prescod
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
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