From dev-return-14392-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@cassandra.apache.org Fri Jun 1 18:21:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id E531718063A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 18:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 52606 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jun 2018 16:21:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 52574 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jun 2018 16:21:21 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 16:21:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 86CFC1A2CBC for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:21:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.293 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.293 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1.697, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=windofkeltia-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EFFLGQfhna8Q for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pf0-f193.google.com (mail-pf0-f193.google.com [209.85.192.193]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 4D0A35F17B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2018 16:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf0-f193.google.com with SMTP id f189-v6so12746766pfa.7 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:21:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=windofkeltia-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=yxbNIWhbBVmsaF06ftUPwVPmzKbC/u6rHwI/45sYZrM=; b=bMirqn+jr4ONeQM1LsZ89aqAQNnrFFMozFq0VbpgoXnAG5Xyrfo90cF/OMHwKDe5ve OgNp2rY9QWGSBV77/HFUDaMObLVodkZewUcOYPvfhLkqSKCxAB6xPB5tZVhGMX7Szmdz dKUGgiopNUmxunH/qzoob/55ob3OsHWRy++RHCLxzTEzzSwmzWAEIJw8Mbshdl0UX99B lV2CE7XPr2e160ADiEPSet5V4JP6PGlvdGdHQp/03yKwBpBXSwt0CEK9nXIg4HxACopZ JbVCD7bjw1uSVjjfJ/PyJfrGwGvKI/7gHQI4ciNn1BFQKdr7wus1MAQG2RbFLOZ8SCN/ j6/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=yxbNIWhbBVmsaF06ftUPwVPmzKbC/u6rHwI/45sYZrM=; b=S6/c7o53TGLgPvkMvBamdfsAyc3EzUaxBPRfBXpEumpYL9LV7tBp/bVth72WrH0KOK zn2RFqeXzrf/KEKAW1mEs9ZJiZURnjFoNU6J153j9LVVv51+pB6ux40njjtcTJSspIBG k3sGkvHC0xNHZ8QPkhVt87paAtpIZx9DE7IErWldRpTRgYwUEWm11EpWAZU4gQ/jnan2 LJQa2yITi3oVXx/dzZnLPTgSZvBebPR/dZlOGg8fhg7ieoFlJQMXNa7JKjbdQ0VOJD/8 VJtVnJn0YNHNUIKWFBwyiXcbLRh2y6RGfjt0cKE4JhPCjxm68a4PL0Vk4qvIMCVjQM6h RiMg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwf2a7Vszzc36DYexPY8zLU6Qm2Q8bETsAfNNjZSjjQBqrfH/EFC Ez3DO8GaEdQ8Ras/2C5sBniEbw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKkmPJh8oC9lWiBea1gGEiXSNVnRC6AgB+WUzwdY5pwfPeBtzQHfgrOvAaZdzAPMVN2qqStaw== X-Received: by 2002:a62:fe0e:: with SMTP id z14-v6mr11580649pfh.73.1527870078214; Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.8.44] ([199.192.164.75]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a5-v6sm88205331pff.8.2018.06.01.09.21.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Jun 2018 09:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Planning to port cqlsh to Python 3 (CASSANDRA-10190) To: dev@cassandra.apache.org References: <085952c0-2459-e57f-4017-712dd4e94dfa@redhat.com> From: Russell Bateman Message-ID: <1a959833-f8e2-2ece-9145-5120dfcadbcb@windofkeltia.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:21:16 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D346C1447DEA1BC7F6A8CEE7" Content-Language: en-US --------------D346C1447DEA1BC7F6A8CEE7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support for, but not the very script, right? Because, as gently pointed out by several realists here, Python 2 is far from dead and arguably still the majority usage. That's only just now beginning to change. I think it will be more than 2 years before people begin asking what Python 2 was. On 06/01/2018 10:10 AM, Jonathan Haddad wrote: > Supporting both as a next step is logical, removing support for 2 in the > next year or two seems reasonable enough. Gotta rip the band aid off at > some point. > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 2:34 AM Michael Burman wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Deprecating in this context does not mean removing it or it being >> replaced by 3 (RHEL 7.x will remain with Python 2.x as default). It >> refers to future versions (>7), but there are none at this point. It >> appears Ubuntu has deviated from Debian in this sense, but Debian has >> not changed yet (likely Debian 10 will, but that's not out yet and has >> no announced release date). >> >> Thus, 2.x still remains the most used version for servers. And servers >> deployed at this point of time will use these versions for years. >> >> - Micke >> >> >> On 06/01/2018 10:52 AM, Murukesh Mohanan wrote: >>> On 2018/06/01 07:40:04, Michael Burman wrote: >>>> IIRC, there's no major distribution yet that defaults to Python 3 (I >>>> think Ubuntu & Debian are still defaulting to Python 2 also). This will >>>> happen eventually (maybe), but not yet. Discarding Python 2 support >>>> would mean more base-OS work for most people wanting to run Cassandra >>>> and that's not a positive thing. >>>> >>> Ubuntu since 16.04 defaults to Python 3: >>> >>>> Python2 is not installed anymore by default on the server, cloud and >> the touch images, long live Python3! Python3 itself has been upgraded to >> the 3.5 series. - >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Python_3 >>> RHEL 7.5 deprecates Python 2 ( >> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/7.5_release_notes/chap-red_hat_enterprise_linux-7.5_release_notes-deprecated_functionality >> ). >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cassandra.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cassandra.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cassandra.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cassandra.apache.org >> >> -- > Jon Haddad > http://www.rustyrazorblade.com > twitter: rustyrazorblade > --------------D346C1447DEA1BC7F6A8CEE7--