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From Edward Capriolo <>
Subject Re: State of triggers
Date Sat, 04 Mar 2017 15:23:40 GMT
On Saturday, March 4, 2017, Edward Capriolo <> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Jeff Jirsa <
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:40 AM, Edward Capriolo <
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I used them. I built do it yourself secondary indexes with them. They
>> have
>> > there gotchas, but so do all the secondary index implementations. Just
>> > because datastax does not write about something. Lets see like 5 years
>> ago
>> > there was this:
>> >
>> >
>> Still in use? How'd it work? Production ready? Would you still do it that
>> way in 2017?
>> > There is a fairly large divergence to what actual users do and what
>> other
>> > groups 'say' actual users do in some cases.
>> >
>> A lot of people don't share what they're doing (for business reasons, or
>> because they don't think it's important, or because they don't know
>> how/where), and that's fine but it makes it hard for anyone to know what
>> features are used, or how well they're really working in production.
>> I've seen a handful of "how do we use triggers" questions in IRC, and they
>> weren't unreasonable questions, but seemed like a lot of pain, and more
>> than one of those people ultimately came back and said they used some
>> other
>> mechanism (and of course, some of them silently disappear, so we have no
>> idea if it worked or not).
>> If anyone's actively using triggers, please don't keep it a secret.
>> Knowing
>> that they're being used would be a great way to justify continuing to
>> maintain them.
>> - Jeff
> "Still in use? How'd it work? Production ready? Would you still do it that
> way in 2017?"
> I mean that is a loaded question. How long has cassandra had Secondary
> Indexes? Did they work well? Would you use them? How many times were they
> re-written?
The state if triggers imho was more about the long standing opinion that
users should not be able to inject code into cassandra.

That stance reversed and people could inject code, eventually all the
walls: sandboxes, mandate on copying a jar to every server toppled.

In the mix the secondary index implementations (that read before write (and
maybe still do)) were pitches as the supported way to do it correctly.

To be fair i would probably do this in an application server infront of c
unless the trigger had to genenerate n in the hundreds or thousands of

Sorry this was sent from mobile. Will do less grammar and spell check than

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