Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id D506C200BF6 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:27:31 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id D04DA160B3D; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 253A4160B2C for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:27:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 31227 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jan 2017 17:27:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 31215 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jan 2017 17:27:29 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 347F3C1987 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.121 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s1Ww8z1hIBoR for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf0-f47.google.com (mail-lf0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 3267D5FC81 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf0-f47.google.com with SMTP id v186so65918076lfa.1 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=4fRi3lhDknMkBHFb9z0d8SD3v4dfkMvjPVRw6EMhMsk=; b=Eun80lonJaU/DAVZw7hg7ZohFLKpCz/Edh8onX5QX0SKnzgw8QANRnvLeUuxIpugh6 el89FXB0uN00noG4lLyqvA/dFvDv43SL3droap5h+By0GcGyrVp3Qq9AHYIKpxkvuiPE t9IQz84vEK03dhYStqU2iMJcqPxz5VMAoKP1uVD5TatZ2mxNKWn0Dj6CAiHuDb9Mon2c USpLb9BwCpxTQjMJEsCjrZaEXjBeXsOHQ2Wm3A8Xsx2nLW8QtIu3YNK6OQi2BhserTwd ItSw/guFfMGOkW/k4uQN2h4j8AN0vNDmuiuac3X3B+yQWL7jqrZtx4JXWHxNj6ed/AHn hqqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=4fRi3lhDknMkBHFb9z0d8SD3v4dfkMvjPVRw6EMhMsk=; b=CAjDmnremypoEzeLigOadTdwRBEejl2QmxkEDgpryuj5008NE/8CF5p9cAS2catGbK gOkzSl2Axn//UQBGo/NcSzUfvAd2x1rN3eYQCdXwJfpDNj278N+jNID60up9iLCPG0Hy tlNx0SzT7vHd4RUVXU+thDPX4TX/KnWEdii96Uu+V3zDPPSpnKwlTHNW7gju/gVibfum o89CIaM8+8o1n9IbJROLCuBjZ8KK/ijtedGlug7WwDulmRO3jIqVSzH9AbcZc3Q5YP41 SMAy1WaaS6skGrsprCtiuV6JGxvSlVq0devjEMRYQ/NiswI4mNCvM0O7FUbZrl3RFmTS wusg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKpoxyXQhpipDV/FQkuuku1UMB759mHeQlueipDsK3bM+q3e7ywTsWx/6xqB3eRvpCOka+p+iE6hdB39w== X-Received: by 10.25.72.199 with SMTP id v190mr1640110lfa.130.1484069237352; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:27:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.21.166 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:27:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Nate McCall Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:27:16 +1300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Wrapping up tick-tock To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 archived-at: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:27:32 -0000 > I agreed with you at the time that the yearly cycle was too long to be > adding features before cutting a release, and still do now. Instead of > elastic banding all the way back to a process which wasn't working before, > why not try somewhere in the middle? A release every 6 months (with > monthly bug fixes for a year) gives: > > 1. long enough time to stabilize (1 year vs 1 month) > 2. not so long things sit around untested forever > 3. only 2 releases (current and previous) to do bug fix support at any > given time. The third reason is particularly appealing. +1 on six months. +1 on killing tick/tock at 3.10 (with a potential bugfix follow up per the other thread).