Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3444D200BB9 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:05:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 32CFE160AF9; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 52881160AEB for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:05:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 86505 invoked by uid 500); 7 Nov 2016 10:05:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 86493 invoked by uid 99); 7 Nov 2016 10:05:26 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:05:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 4E6CEC0FD4 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:05:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.198 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.198 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qSQP4Kb1eYzB for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ua0-f176.google.com (mail-ua0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 664545F19D for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 12so115303696uas.2 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 02:05:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=i37gPDBDZi7OSwySXTppIM+n6HW/gCpfFsXDpS5eAjU=; b=E21FVpn/qVPVRRIzcfJO3DAjk3l976plOA5JXCmnGD/ArPhVQUsO+kkmXAS4mpgKwJ zH8pPDEkojVZUK4gWGu8GAvxZUt8vBB4tze5/oHgpr/B9FFgxwqNRTviFv1q0O9ayREm qWQBCgtQKuRnTaTa98lNd4SXm9esXHOte4YVUwkuM28UZtjAMfw8aS1CS2GLCyqp/kJX CclAEcy6Rg7q+lzAXSOtyW1lCWpH/OrsyCp8GrAmq7IAbm5w689b9O2brYS2axUEfjN6 JuFtageGws7FyFTPJ+2QKnvCLdNOy8UkJ6RNQ6v/3XFUJOwFwLNUW57sGwMb+uMTZ+v+ lK/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=i37gPDBDZi7OSwySXTppIM+n6HW/gCpfFsXDpS5eAjU=; b=fFPKgtQt0fr9HhSEH0RCi5nEv/XvKz3gZJUB1vOLYLL9R6DcdQ8ZRYFgz55GLuSG9j 7PwMN7xBUlRyO5WuM+ItyO/+Vna50r+sbbZuT8ujRylC5BBhxjuIHPu2pN2A97hJgZJT pmtsJt1Yw93sZa4tH65RwaxfaIbqf2p/vpI5JUidUAmv29XT+WI/T0xgZLrPltYEMsLR uk0Ly197Ji9vrjJrPvCjAjoNItIxEFc2+hnl9auOayUI4Au8BBVpO1QvUfowAOHlIFVe EFgqpyqea/g03A1Am24RokgOqNMtA3H1fNckAEUfXrLB1CxbgKnPHrXf+Pvzt7+msyWE wYFg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvdmtLQaloA91Bs4xN6R838RveyCg1ylt2Hg3jZqLRLYREGiNNbKFu0GLawQELwhK7ULOCjHBDgGcw4vkA== X-Received: by 10.176.84.150 with SMTP id p22mr3257465uaa.50.1478513119885; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 02:05:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.159.37.103 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 02:04:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alain RODRIGUEZ Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:04:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DataStax and Cassandra To: "dev@cassandra.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1b11024e7de60540b329da archived-at: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 10:05:29 -0000 --94eb2c1b11024e7de60540b329da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On a personal note, I=E2=80=99d like to thank those in this weekend=E2=80= =99s threads who have > tried to de-escalate tensions rather than inflame them. I agree. Thanks. Let's try to all learn from that, please. I believe we can disagree politely and respectfully. And we must do so. We can still express anything we want to express. It's just a bit harder, it takes a bit longer this way, but it's so much more efficient to have your real message reaching people. Jeff Jirsa=E2=80=99s diplomacy stands out to me as particularly mature. > True, that was my opinion as well while reading the threads. I also want to take the chance to say that this applies to you as well Jonathan. IMHO, your message is just what the community needed right now. So thanks for the clarification... ... And for what you have done in the last years. As Aaron said at the Summit, you, as an individual, have changed my life, and many other, in a very good way. From my first message in the user mailing list you answered to this last message in the dev list to preserve the community, even after stepping down from the project chair. The amount, variety and quality of work you have done and the way you are behaving are inspiring for me. As has been said before, we=E2=80=99re all on the same team here. Now let= =E2=80=99s get back > to making Apache Cassandra the best open source distributed database in > the world! Sounds good :-). A community is nothing but what we bring to it as individuals. Looking forward to working all together, with our disagreements, but peacefully, in the same direction, once again. C*heers, ----------------------- Alain Rodriguez - @arodream - alain@thelastpickle.com France The Last Pickle - Apache Cassandra Consulting http://www.thelastpickle.com 2016-11-06 21:43 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Ellis : > Hi all, > > There=E2=80=99s been some conversation and some acrimony kicked up by my = recent > blog post here > = . > I appreciate the conversation and regret the acrimony! > > Fundamentally I was trying to convey two complementary messages: > > > 1. > > DataStax wants to see Apache Cassandra thrive and will continue to > contribute in multiple ways to make that happen, but at the same time > 2. > > DataStax will be placing more emphasis on DSE and more engineering > effort behind it. > > > It=E2=80=99s unfortunate that the timing here coincides with some regrett= able > actions by the Apache Board of Directors, but this change in emphasis is > primarily driven by business factors unrelated to the ASF. DataStax shar= es > Apache=E2=80=99s commitment to community-led development independent of a= ny single > vendor. > > One friend pointed out to me that any vagueness can be interpreted as > =E2=80=9Cweasel words=E2=80=9D and turned into alarmist conjectures as to= what this really > means. I gave several specifics in the post as to how DataStax will > continue to contribute to Apache Cassandra, but maybe I can simplify > things: > > This has been going on for months. DataStax=E2=80=99s level of contribut= ion moving > forward will be nearly indistinguishable from our level in October and > September. If that was no cause for alarm then, I hope it will not be > cause for alarm now that we have articulated how we are moving forward. > > To be explicit: DataStax engineers will continue to contribute code > reviews, bug fixes, and selected new features to Apache Cassandra. In a > qualitative sense then, you could almost say that nothing has changed. > > On a personal note, I=E2=80=99d like to thank those in this weekend=E2=80= =99s threads who > have tried to de-escalate tensions rather than inflame them. Jeff Jirsa= =E2=80=99s > diplomacy stands out to me as particularly mature. > > As has been said before, we=E2=80=99re all on the same team here. Now le= t=E2=80=99s get > back to making Apache Cassandra the best open source distributed database > in the world! > > -- > Jonathan Ellis > co-founder, http://www.datastax.com > @spyced > --94eb2c1b11024e7de60540b329da--