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From Ross Gardler <Ross.Gard...@microsoft.com>
Subject Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF
Date Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:46:42 GMT
Again. If the PMC fails to bring board (and trademark) feedback to the community it is not
a failing of the board. Board minutes are available. Review comments and actions over the
last 12 months or so.

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From: Jeremy Hanna <jeremy.hanna1234@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 8:30:20 AM
To: Jim Jagielski
Cc: dev@cassandra.apache.org; Ɓukasz Dywicki; Chris Mattmann; Kelly Sommers; Apache Board
Subject: Re: DataStax role in Cassandra and the ASF

No it wasn't. You're citing the eventual and agreed upon outcome. I was talking about the
approach which is clear in the dev and user list threads that the board was involved in. It
is also apparently much more apparent in the private threads which apparently the PMC can
make public.

> On Nov 5, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
>
> Which is what was done: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhimsy.apache.org%2Fboard%2Fminutes%2FCassandra.html&data=02%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7Ca198e6c0a658409b0b8208d406e21b78%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636141015575977801&sdata=xL7B%2F1xNDCfgnZ2pvTnuuhZWIymllsNV1Z0WNghuot4%3D&reserved=0
>
>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Jeremy Hanna <jeremy.hanna1234@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> If the ASF is at risk with a single company allowed to dominate a project then why
couldn't the approach have been something like: "great job on building a successful project
and community. We think there is great potential for more involvement at the core contribution
level. How can we work together to augment the existing efforts to encourage contribution
and bring in new contributors? By the way here are a couple of policy and trademark things
that we need to get fixed."
>>
>> I didn't understand the assumption that DataStax was doing something nefarious nor
the approach that was taken.  On a personal note I had tried to ask about evidence and the
approach previously but was ignored: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fdev%40cassandra.apache.org%2Fmsg09101.html&data=02%7C01%7CRoss.Gardler%40microsoft.com%7Ca198e6c0a658409b0b8208d406e21b78%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636141015575977801&sdata=tvQacSr5ikOC8wgxR6iD2QdtqEYc13rjiA977Ic6FNM%3D&reserved=0
 Perhaps that was due to the volume of messages on that thread but I don't feel those questions
were ever addressed.
>>
>> Regardless, I see a positive way forward for the project and am grateful to everyone
working towards that.
>>
>

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