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From "J. D. Jordan" <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: A proposal to move away from Jira-centric development
Date Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:18:28 GMT
From my interactions with people who are not actively involved I think it is much easier for
them to follow a JIRA link and then start being involved in the discussion than it is to get
a link to the mail archive and then figure out how to get in on the discussion.

People who aren't used to mailing lists don't "get them". Most people understand getting an
account on a website and posting there, as it's like Facebook but for Software discussions.

> On Aug 15, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> How is it harder to point someone to mail?
> 
> Have you seen lists.apache.org?
> 
> Specifically:
> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@cassandra.apache.org
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/15/16, 10:08 AM, "Jeremiah D Jordan" <jeremiah.jordan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>    I like keeping things in JIRA because then everything is in one place, and it is easy
to refer someone to it in the future.
>    But I agree that JIRA tickets with a bunch of design discussion and POC’s and such
in them can get pretty long and convoluted.
> 
>    I don’t really like the idea of moving all of that discussion to email which makes
it has harder to point someone to it.  Maybe a better idea would be to have a “design/POC”
JIRA and an “implementation” JIRA.  That way we could still keep things in JIRA, but the
final decision would be kept “clean”.
> 
>    Though it would be nice if people would send an email to the dev list when proposing
“design” JIRA’s, as not everyone has time to follow every JIRA ever made to see that
a new design JIRA was created that they might be interested in participating on.
> 
>    My 2c.
> 
>    -Jeremiah
> 
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jonathan Ellis <jbellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A long time ago, I was a proponent of keeping most development discussions
>> on Jira, where tickets can be self contained and the threadless nature
>> helps keep discussions from getting sidetracked.
>> 
>> But Cassandra was a lot smaller then, and as we've grown it has become
>> necessary to separate out the signal (discussions of new features and major
>> changes) from the noise of routine bug reports.
>> 
>> I propose that we take advantage of the dev list to perform that
>> separation.  Major new features and architectural improvements should be
>> discussed first here, then when consensus on design is achieved, moved to
>> Jira for implementation and review.
>> 
>> I think this will also help with the problem when the initial idea proves
>> to be unworkable and gets revised substantially later after much
>> discussion.  It can be difficult to figure out what the conclusion was, as
>> review comments start to pile up afterwards.  Having that discussion on the
>> list, and summarizing on Jira, would mitigate this.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jonathan Ellis
>> Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
>> co-founder, http://www.datastax.com
>> @spyced
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