Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 20246 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2010 21:01:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 19 Mar 2010 21:01:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6731 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2010 21:01:05 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-dev-archive@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 6714 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2010 21:01:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 6706 invoked by uid 99); 19 Mar 2010 21:01:05 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:01:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.221.196] (HELO mail-qy0-f196.google.com) (209.85.221.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:00:57 +0000 Received: by qyk34 with SMTP id 34so2403968qyk.26 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.28.19 with SMTP id k19mr340229qac.322.1269032435925; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iholsman.local (h-64-236-138-3.aoltw.net [64.236.138.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm1071771qwk.52.2010.03.19.14.00.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BA3E5E8.5090502@holsman.net> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:00:24 +1100 From: Ian Holsman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Binary release artifacts (or What a User Wants) References: <1268860877.20989.137.camel@erebus.lan> <4239a4321003172124p2c194697o6dbbe6b4ae6a66aa@mail.gmail.com> <4239a4321003172132u27d5b713nb07e1dbab5fd4065@mail.gmail.com> <1268925029.20989.161.camel@erebus.lan> <1268925764.6259.2.camel@erebus.lan> <1268927878.6259.20.camel@erebus.lan> <1268930765.6259.41.camel@erebus.lan> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/19/10 5:36 AM, Jesse McConnell wrote: > > yes, and my point is that if there is any question in your guys minds > on if it is allowed or not that is an issue for apache legal (via > jira) for a definitive answer > > so.. if you have a question for them.. go ping them.. no need anyone else to paraphrase it.. just go ahead and ask. > I am not a lawyer, but I'll play one on a mailing list.. > please don't. it doesn't help anyone. if you think you need a legal opinion then get one. you (and your companies) circumstances are unique, and as such you should hire your own legal representation to analyze the situation and how it works in your circumstances. (called a legal opinion I think) don't assume that your circumstances meet the need of the general public as every one is different. we as a project do our best effort to make sure we have the right attribution and licensing. but we are not lawyers, and our interpretation of what a license means might be different than yours. even lawyers who have looked at these things aren't 100% in agreement to what cross-linking and stuff like that means as it hasn't gone through a legal case where a judge has made a ruling which makes it harder to point to something and say this is the right stuff. so .. let me repeat. if you think there is an issue, get your own lawyer to read the licenses and give you their legal opinion and follow that. that is what they are there for. Ivy and maven downloading dependent jars seems to work well for most projects. the legal thing about if they/can't they has been discussed to death a million times.. go google it. there is no right answer. > cheers! > jesse > >