Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cassandra-commits-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-commits-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65FED10F6D for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9463 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2014 18:10:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cassandra-commits-archive@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 9432 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 2014 18:10:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commits-help@cassandra.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cassandra.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list commits@cassandra.apache.org Received: (qmail 9422 invoked by uid 99); 26 Feb 2014 18:10:21 -0000 Received: from arcas.apache.org (HELO arcas.apache.org) (140.211.11.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:10:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:10:21 +0000 (UTC) From: "T Jake Luciani (JIRA)" To: commits@cassandra.apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-2434) range movements can violate consistency MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2434?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13913251#comment-13913251 ] T Jake Luciani commented on CASSANDRA-2434: ------------------------------------------- I will try working on a relocate test and look at addressing this > range movements can violate consistency > --------------------------------------- > > Key: CASSANDRA-2434 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2434 > Project: Cassandra > Issue Type: Bug > Reporter: Peter Schuller > Assignee: T Jake Luciani > Fix For: 2.1 beta2 > > Attachments: 2434-3.patch.txt, 2434-testery.patch.txt > > > My reading (a while ago) of the code indicates that there is no logic involved during bootstrapping that avoids consistency level violations. If I recall correctly it just grabs neighbors that are currently up. > There are at least two issues I have with this behavior: > * If I have a cluster where I have applications relying on QUORUM with RF=3, and bootstrapping complete based on only one node, I have just violated the supposedly guaranteed consistency semantics of the cluster. > * Nodes can flap up and down at any time, so even if a human takes care to look at which nodes are up and things about it carefully before bootstrapping, there's no guarantee. > A complication is that not only does it depend on use-case where this is an issue (if all you ever do you do at CL.ONE, it's fine); even in a cluster which is otherwise used for QUORUM operations you may wish to accept less-than-quorum nodes during bootstrap in various emergency situations. > A potential easy fix is to have bootstrap take an argument which is the number of hosts to bootstrap from, or to assume QUORUM if none is given. > (A related concern is bootstrapping across data centers. You may *want* to bootstrap to a local node and then do a repair to avoid sending loads of data across DC:s while still achieving consistency. Or even if you don't care about the consistency issues, I don't think there is currently a way to bootstrap from local nodes only.) > Thoughts? -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.1.5#6160)