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From "paul cannon (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-2434) node bootstrapping can violate consistency
Date Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:58:10 GMT

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paul cannon commented on CASSANDRA-2434:
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Judging by the irc channel and user list, assuming people will follow best practices seems
a bit of a dead end. Plus, what about the case where the node leaving the replica set is dead?
You still want the option to allow choosing another to stream from. And we probably shouldn't
default to choosing another without explicit permission, because of the consistency violation
stuff.

> node bootstrapping can violate consistency
> ------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CASSANDRA-2434
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2434
>             Project: Cassandra
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Peter Schuller
>            Assignee: paul cannon
>             Fix For: 1.1
>
>         Attachments: 2434.patch.txt
>
>
> My reading (a while ago) of the code indicates that there is no logic involved during
bootstrapping that avoids consistency level violations. If I recall correctly it just grabs
neighbors that are currently up.
> There are at least two issues I have with this behavior:
> * If I have a cluster where I have applications relying on QUORUM with RF=3, and bootstrapping
complete based on only one node, I have just violated the supposedly guaranteed consistency
semantics of the cluster.
> * Nodes can flap up and down at any time, so even if a human takes care to look at which
nodes are up and things about it carefully before bootstrapping, there's no guarantee.
> A complication is that not only does it depend on use-case where this is an issue (if
all you ever do you do at CL.ONE, it's fine); even in a cluster which is otherwise used for
QUORUM operations you may wish to accept less-than-quorum nodes during bootstrap in various
emergency situations.
> A potential easy fix is to have bootstrap take an argument which is the number of hosts
to bootstrap from, or to assume QUORUM if none is given.
> (A related concern is bootstrapping across data centers. You may *want* to bootstrap
to a local node and then do a repair to avoid sending loads of data across DC:s while still
achieving consistency. Or even if you don't care about the consistency issues, I don't think
there is currently a way to bootstrap from local nodes only.)
> Thoughts?

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