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From Zoran Regvart <>
Subject Re: Curious routing case
Date Mon, 03 Apr 2017 09:09:54 GMT
Hi Artur,
I was thinking that the order of the messages would be important as
you need to process them sequentially.

So I think you could use the dynamic message routing[1] with
aggregator[2], something like:



So from yout SQS queue you would use a processor to pre-process
message whose responsibility would be to set the (custom) `nextRoute`
and (custom) `group` headers. `nextRoute` would be `parallel` or
`sequential`, and if `sequential` the messages would be aggregated
using the `group` header.

You would want to define your own custom aggregation strategy or use
the completion* options that are available to you. There also might be
need to use seda[3] to fine tune any parallel processing. You might
throw in there a data format unmarshaller[4] instead of the
`preProcess` processor and use something like `${} == foo` in
the `toD` expression.

And I would guess that you need to examine transactions or persistence
at some point also in case your aggregation step runs for a long time
or if your use case is sensitive to message loss if interrupted --
which would undoubtedly lead you back to using queues to separate
those two ways of processing,




On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Artur Jablonski
<> wrote:
> Hey Zoran.
> I read again the patterns you mentioned. In my use case the order of
> processing within a group doesn't matter as long as two messages from the
> same group are never processed in parallel. So i guess resenquencer is out
> of the picture unless I didn't get the intention.
> So what we are left with is the content based router. Sure. The message
> comes, i can see what group it belongs two... And what next? Perhaps it's
> the very first message from that group so I would need to trigger creating
> route/processor for that group somehow, perhaps messages from this group
> were processed before in which case the processor for the group should
> already exist...
> On 31 Mar 2017 7:58 p.m., "Zoran Regvart" <> wrote:
>> Hi Artur,
>> have a look at Camel EIP page[1], what you describe sounds to me like
>> Resequencer and Content based router patterns,
>> zoran
>> [1]
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Artur Jablonski
>> <> wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > I wonder if someone could push me in the right direction trying to
>> express
>> > quite curious case in Camel route.
>> >
>> > Imagine there's a stream of messages some of which can be processed in
>> > parallel and some have to be processed serially. You can group the
>> messages
>> > that require serial processing together by looking at the message body.
>> You
>> > don't know upfront how many groups can occur in the stream.
>> >
>> > The way I thought about doing this is having a route for each message
>> > group. Since I don't know upfront how many and what groups there will be
>> > then I would need to create routes dynamically. If a message comes
>> > belonging to a group that doesn't have it's handling route, then i could
>> > create it (is that even possible??) Then if there's no messages coming
>> for
>> > a given group in some time I could remove the route for the group to
>> > cleanup (is that possible?)
>> >
>> > New to Camel
>> >
>> > Thx!
>> > Artur
>> --
>> Zoran Regvart

Zoran Regvart

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