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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:09:05 +0100
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Subject: Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel,
 ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric
From: Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com>
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FWIW, I think I first mentioned hawtio in the Camel 3.0 thread (message
from 8:27 am)  when you asked Lukasz to look at the lightweight web
console, only saying we should look at it.  James started this different
thread to actually not pollute the Camel 3 discussion with hawtio details.
So I think we're on the same page.


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, that is a different discussion I would rather have in the context of
> Camel 3.0. I will start a separate thread for this. Having the conversation
> in the context of the subject of this thread may be confusing. Sorry for
> the misunderstanding.
>
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
>
>
>
> On 01/25/2013 10:42 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
>> You misunderstood me.  So I rephrase.
>>
>> Camel and ActiveMQ community needs a versatile console which can run in a
>> non OSGi environement, so they can't drop their current web console in
>> favor of the karaf one.
>>
>> This discussion is imho totally relevant for the camel community, as it is
>> for all other projects.  I already forwarded the email to the karaf
>> community and other projects may be involved too.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  This is one more reason why the hawt.io discussions should take place in
>>> the hawt.io communities. Not here.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/25/2013 08:08 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>
>>>  Lukasz, I'm sorry you're angry, but you're missing the point that the
>>>> Karaf
>>>> web console is bound to OSGi even if it can be reused with Camel or
>>>> ActiveMQ.
>>>> So the Camel and ActiveMQ community will never drop their own console,
>>>> because the OSGi users is only a fraction of the user base.  Hawtio
>>>> enable
>>>> all projects to cooperate on a single web console, at last.
>>>> So it serves a more general purpose imnsho.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>


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