Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06089EA52 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 99311 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jan 2013 15:25:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 99231 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jan 2013 15:25:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 99221 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jan 2013 15:25:24 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:25:24 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hzbarcea@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.45 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.45] (HELO mail-yh0-f45.google.com) (209.85.213.45) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:25:18 +0000 Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 24so62877yhr.18 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:24:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ETudVU8MwfOADlWSmmJDQIf6abDVG6g0ku9YqcS3PcU=; b=eiJdYdQghHMRicVn1V7OE35Qf3tidGiUbZavjeDMCtgjba1xXhokPANWl6wIe8haVf Og1LwmN8XfQN7rbJSzgoY7Q76jDTjdo/T3Zkc/68QfaBF1O70TVtcYv7pDsU+txS7rs5 3syatixCgCty599umKArpm3LZGiMpmVjdj8OspDrgpbHNSo/nps+szG5LOUS2Vs0WQ/P TLOlgWoPemNxV6LN8uFG8wK5lQ/3LMaJ8s58/4BzAA7PwuPhdD4WxsgRd+6QTQkZGKL8 hEpVei1xzVn7OHaBzzC4VKP67vkziEeCcQlyriF6KV1unX2s9mjB7cdJUXP7pr81oL5W WLuA== X-Received: by 10.236.162.69 with SMTP id x45mr6453461yhk.111.1359127497334; Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.40.58.202] (cpe-107-015-170-016.nc.res.rr.com. [107.15.170.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1sm1010175anj.1.2013.01.25.07.24.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5102A3CA.40905@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:24:58 -0500 From: Hadrian Zbarcea User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: users@camel.apache.org Subject: Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric References: <7C154B95-A4E2-4058-B895-A20948009CFB@code-house.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is one more reason why the hawt.io discussions should take place in the hawt.io communities. Not here. Thanks, Hadrian On 01/25/2013 08:08 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote: > Lukasz, I'm sorry you're angry, but you're missing the point that the Karaf > web console is bound to OSGi even if it can be reused with Camel or > ActiveMQ. > So the Camel and ActiveMQ community will never drop their own console, > because the OSGi users is only a fraction of the user base. Hawtio enable > all projects to cooperate on a single web console, at last. > So it serves a more general purpose imnsho. >