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From Guillaume Nodet <>
Subject Re: [ANN] hawtio: a new lightweight HTML5 console for Apache Camel, ActiveMQ, JMX, OSGi & Fuse Fabric
Date Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:42:01 GMT
You misunderstood me.  So I rephrase.

Camel and ActiveMQ community needs a versatile console which can run in a
non OSGi environement, so they can't drop their current web console in
favor of the karaf one.

This discussion is imho totally relevant for the camel community, as it is
for all other projects.  I already forwarded the email to the karaf
community and other projects may be involved too.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <> wrote:

> This is one more reason why the discussions should take place in
> the communities. Not here.
> Thanks,
> Hadrian
> On 01/25/2013 08:08 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>> Lukasz, I'm sorry you're angry, but you're missing the point that the
>> Karaf
>> web console is bound to OSGi even if it can be reused with Camel or
>> ActiveMQ.
>> So the Camel and ActiveMQ community will never drop their own console,
>> because the OSGi users is only a fraction of the user base.  Hawtio enable
>> all projects to cooperate on a single web console, at last.
>> So it serves a more general purpose imnsho.

Guillaume Nodet
Red Hat, Open Source Integration


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