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From <Ramkumar.I...@cognizant.com>
Subject RE: Our paper on Apache Camel
Date Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:32:23 GMT
Hi Claus,

I am really glad to hear that. We only looked at publicly available Camel material although
purchasing a book would be a good idea. Packt, Manning, Orielly do publish great material
on technical topics which amazes people. Since our designers had middleware background they
did not read books but went through the examples and web site material. We also had an internal
team already executing such a project to guide us.

It is great to hear that Fuse IDE is being open sourced. It will be a good contribution to
make to integrate it with a tool like Hermes (JMS monitor); so that when a message is injected
via the JMS monitor the elements in the Fuse IDE will react appropriately. We also would want
a performance monitoring test harness integrated in the IDE that graphs latency etc. Since
the designers had extensive XML expertise we took the shorter route of writing XML; also helped
in no way by the fact that some of the systems were already exchanging XML with embedded EDIFACT.

One book we did look at was EIP Patterns by Addison Wesley or the famous Hohpe book; although
we looked mostly at the graphical representations that were an invaluable aid to understanding.
We are currently doing the development and implementation phase and one thing we critically
need to understand are the impact of the non functional requirements.

We will definitely look into the quality books.

Regards
Ram


-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Ibsen [mailto:claus.ibsen@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 7:01 PM
To: users@camel.apache.org
Subject: Re: Our paper on Apache Camel

Hi Ramkumar

On page 2, section I, you have literature review.
Did you not look at published books for the various projects? Both
Camel, Mule and Spring Integration have books on the matter.
IMHO this is a quality sign of a project when books have been
published, or are in the works.
http://camel.apache.org/books

Also this blog post by Kai Waheler has been popular read, where he
gives some thoughts about Camel, Mule and SI as well
http://www.kai-waehner.de/blog/2012/01/10/spoilt-for-choice-which-integration-framework-to-use-spring-integration-mule-esb-or-apache-camel/

And the Camel editor Fuse IDE is being open sourced and free for
everyone to use. The project will be hosted at gibhub, when the
transition is done later this year.




On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM,  <Ramkumar.Iyer@cognizant.com> wrote:
> Sorry, Thanks. Please note it is more focused on case study on adoption. We are now in
development phase and now digging more into Camel internals. The real problem we foresee is
one of meeting our non functional requirements since Camel is very rich enough functionally
to support our limited needs.
>
> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwrNg-893yAJaDlJcUtSUE5Welk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raul Kripalani [mailto:raul@evosent.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:13 PM
> To: users@camel.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Our paper on Apache Camel
>
> Hi Ramkumar,
>
> Could you upload it somewhere and send a link to it? It looks like it got
> stripped away from the email.
>
> Looking forward to reading it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> *Raúl Kripalani*
> Apache Camel Committer
> Enterprise Architect, Program Manager, Open Source Integration specialist
> http://about.me/raulkripalani | http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk <http://twitter.com/raulvk>
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM, <Ramkumar.Iyer@cognizant.com> wrote:
>
>> I hope it benefits people who are looking to move away from proprietary
>> solutions. Would  be good to receive feedback.
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