Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2D52DF69 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13536 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 13:12:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 13388 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 13:11:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 13376 invoked by uid 99); 14 Sep 2012 13:11:59 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:11:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of hekonsek@gmail.com designates 209.85.223.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.223.173] (HELO mail-ie0-f173.google.com) (209.85.223.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:11:52 +0000 Received: by iebc10 with SMTP id c10so8365780ieb.32 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=opaD9ZVrpcCa3HvYrwWw+6E0Yr87VNhc2ZtcWfqx3Lg=; b=knn7TgDjfq37KqSmZ/YnObfKuevDCS1FvQdse5eerCHt6XOnHd5jbxIGbMZ/0vSghP yemzeVgdfd4wZBcoE/1UXJCLL8w2S/cuj8dyRBvo6ZQdJND/IEf0eU95W8PBcqQoxJ/0 cUIcz+hl2hYwsJmNdrY6bFRmob2JH+nlnIOQHqQmloo48+LNj5SNxnNnmSnQYhAA7Eik O5PAam2lzs6Yn6nvgLYyU6oyt33MNsiDV/ljJBl4tU6xb6JVMhiz4ktYLg7yIAwX7jf3 +jdGHn3YAR1KySa9zn2wMjMmggb78Lhe8NFVqlSQwvIxvoARdlbG4GsWN/1BvqeGGtwS mLbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.76.137 with SMTP id k9mr3001456igw.58.1347628291276; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.36.9 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1347485158100-5719214.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1347485158100-5719214.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:11:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL From: Henryk Konsek To: users@camel.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should we use > camel over BPEL? Call me stupid, but BPEL is too complex for me. :) If I want to orchestrate two WS endpoints and perform some transformation on the data, I would like to express this with a few lines of DSL. I'm technical guy and one of the things I'm paid for is to estimate the cost of deploying given technical solution. In my opinion investing into the BPEL is expensive. BPEL is complicated and inflexible. Only abusive volume of legacy BPEL code will convince me to suggest somebody to stick to the BPEL. I don't see any value in the BPEL complexity. -- Henryk Konsek http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com