Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8318BDDE0 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17859 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2012 07:34:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 17462 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2012 07:34:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 17435 invoked by uid 99); 18 Sep 2012 07:34:23 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:34:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of hekonsek@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.173] (HELO mail-iy0-f173.google.com) (209.85.210.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:34:18 +0000 Received: by iakx26 with SMTP id x26so7370217iak.32 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:33:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZLj10P3OL5kc2btKA2mYt91BZRfV/egMPBOzLToLwOY=; b=NryqLd146y89+b6Cn7bMAVotTxlD3i5FuVCVXP7UORlV3D9b35HD+IGB0uSjM+iwim u00eekYC+sPGC4L4RXfp3jBE/NkQUODhAO8X9YqGr34U7hg0kZKh7EjXmmdAGNtIetC9 0m81hL+GERALggcOJI33T0S209kXCNLSZ9VYqnzBJRoZFBM+Dj5prbZDRvloG19lxBnF 4FnyUeyCmdK6y8ZPGXvuiLZ4siJksEydNqq7cfYIoatjekMPROcYcG9+gKgR2WU+rp4E URhoYHNX/4Kmunai5nvcLtyEAUWStdP8bqIqHSQp2+mDcoWPIm9qneokrJkUNy75GJmC wuOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.16.67 with SMTP id px3mr11087116icb.17.1347953637318; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.36.9 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 00:33:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1347874570295-5719460.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1347485158100-5719214.post@n5.nabble.com> <1347874570295-5719460.post@n5.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:33:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL From: Henryk Konsek To: users@camel.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > To be honest, I see companies paying extraordinary sums to get hold of TIBCO, > Oracle, WebMethods, etc. consultants. So they end up paying license + > knowledge. With Camel, they only invest in knowledge. Yeah, actually you always need to invest in knowledge. Thinking that company might avoid that by buying product box, generates even more costs than investing in the knowledge in the first place. Using Oracle or Tibco without investment in learning people works only for the most trivial use cases. -- Henryk Konsek http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com