Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E45FBD119 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58192 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 17:44:12 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 58154 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 17:44:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 58123 invoked by uid 99); 14 Sep 2012 17:44:12 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:44:11 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [114.198.235.81] (HELO mx1.its.ws) (114.198.235.81) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:44:06 +0000 X-AuditID: 0a141505-b7fd36d000000ece-16-5053591accd7 Received: from mail.eg.its.ws (Unknown_Domain [10.10.12.101]) by mx1.its.ws (ITS Mail Security) with SMTP id 1C.9F.03790.A1953505; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:19:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from EG-MBX1.corp.its.ws ([fe80::85a5:33d8:d7fb:63de]) by EG-CH1.corp.its.ws ([fe80::a0b1:c8a2:f696:fb31%12]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:45:35 +0200 From: Omar Atia To: "users@camel.apache.org" Subject: RE: Camel vs BPEL Thread-Topic: Camel vs BPEL Thread-Index: AQHNkS2gl8OfEewBEUe6NOrTHsFrbpeJsQeAgABtQaA= Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:45:34 +0000 Message-ID: <0CBB2FB9E35D9C4998B56A2F1BA57B5F19F55FE3@EG-MBX1.corp.its.ws> References: <1347485158100-5719214.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.20.20.24] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXCxcWTqisdGRxgMD/Z4s3fGcwOjB4/F8xi DGCM4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4MrYc+Ale8FWjopFl++yNDDeYeti5OSQEDCR+L71PpQtJnHh3nog m4tDSGAVo8SFqT9ZIZwdjBJHNs5mAqliE1CSuDb5HpgtImAq8fbXDRYQW1hASmLPp70sEHFp iab9R6BsK4mmPRMYQWwWAVWJGfs/sILYvAJeEpNmrQSq4QBaUCux/ZY/SJhTIFBiZd8OsFZG oIO+n1oDtopZQFzi1pP5TBCHCkgs2XOeGcIWlXj5+B8rhC0vcaulmQ2iXkdiwe5PULa2xLKF r5kh1gpKnJz5hGUCo+gsJGNnIWmZhaRlFpKWBYwsqxi5cisM9TJLivXKizcxgkJfRJR1B+PN HrFDjAIcjEo8vA+eBQYIsSaWFVfmHmKU4GBWEuG11Q4KEOJNSaysSi3Kjy8qzUktPsQozcGi JM5rv8YyQEggPbEkNTs1tSC1CCbLxMEp1cC4KFzh6h+hxkn+B38Lc4Wffa31zvr7VIZpW53c nRSFuqfc0D2vo3A15uTL7P+9s7oWf1ksLnXop7jJ43979u+90Np/Zsful1rbDXn8sgsD9Nba 5ibZu/YsXrHuijTPte/OV12FNj656Ns5O36B8I76M70vnm8OMFztYMYU2vG3fF9n/uRlk++y K7EUZyQaajEXFScCAITvttJ5AgAA X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Adding to this BPEL is slow in performance for heavy load activities. Camel is the best solution you go for , even spring DSL configuration you c= an do the same. -----Original Message----- From: Henryk Konsek [mailto:hekonsek@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 4:12 PM To: users@camel.apache.org Subject: Re: Camel vs BPEL > Hi, can anyone give some really good convincing stuff that why should=20 > we use camel over BPEL? Call me stupid, but BPEL is too complex for me. :) If I want to orchestrate two WS endpoints and perform some transformation o= n the data, I would like to express this with a few lines of DSL. I'm technical guy and one of the things I'm paid for is to estimate the cos= t of deploying given technical solution. In my opinion investing into the B= PEL is expensive. BPEL is complicated and inflexible. Only abusive volume o= f legacy BPEL code will convince me to suggest somebody to stick to the BPE= L. I don't see any value in the BPEL complexity. -- Henryk Konsek http://henryk-konsek.blogspot.com