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From: "Sam (Stephen Samuel)" <samspade79@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:29:53 +0100
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Subject: Re: RouteDefinition vs Route
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I can update camelwatch to add in extra properties, or you could
update the project and do a pull request.

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah .. just realized that if I cast my CamelContext to a
> ModelCamelContext I can do all I need to do with RouteDefinitions
> (rather than Routes)
>
> On 28 July 2012 17:54, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Babak
>>
>> On 28 July 2012 11:42, Babak Vahdat <babak.vahdat@swissonline.ch> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> the easiest is to check their javadoc:
>>>
>>> http://camel.apache.org/maven/current/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/Route.html
>>> http://camel.apache.org/maven/current/camel-core/apidocs/org/apache/camel/model/RouteDefinition.html
>>
>> Have done that ...
>>
>>> Another way around, in the context of the MVC pattern one could claim that
>>> the RouteDefinition is 'M' (using JAXB for mapping between Java/XML) whereas
>>> the Route abstraction is both the 'V' as well as 'C'.
>>
>> I almost get what you are saying but it doesn't quite work for me.  If
>> the Route is a view (which I know is a bit of a stretch) then it has
>> to be a view of something.  I guess I would expect to see a
>> getRouteDefinition() method on the Route in that case.
>>
>> So my question is that starting from the Context you can get a list of
>> Routes and a list of RouteDefinitions.  How do these relate to one
>> another?  I can see that if the Route/RouteDefinitions have an id.
>> then you can find one from the other through that, but the coupling is
>> loose and possibly for a good reason.
>>
>> It seems more that a RouteDefinition is a sort of template for
>> creating a Route .. probably there is something historic in this as
>> the javadocs refer specifically to the <route /> element, so there is
>> clearly a jaxb model type relationship.  Except that the configure()
>> method of RouteBuilder also creates a RouteDefinition rather than a
>> Route, so RouteDefinition is a bit broader in its semantics than
>> that..
>>
>> Still exploring further .. thanks.
>> Bob
>>
>>>
>>> Babak
>>>
>>>
>>>
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-- 
-Sam