Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 56274 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2009 18:09:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Nov 2009 18:09:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 62370 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2009 18:09:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-users-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 62323 invoked by uid 500); 5 Nov 2009 18:09:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 62313 invoked by uid 99); 5 Nov 2009 18:09:46 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:09:46 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of claus.ibsen@gmail.com designates 209.85.218.211 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.218.211] (HELO mail-bw0-f211.google.com) (209.85.218.211) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:09:42 +0000 Received: by bwz3 with SMTP id 3so292419bwz.36 for ; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:09:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cnyl3K7+DUO6Gc+yBCSk1EriC379Ibl8Ci4/Acddeyo=; b=hSI9srFcyM/bc5lPf2uh9mG9HuV8VSbviOzFVOp8Tx1tVk8ifQhFi2B1+g0BTUckGm tqMfCauu2DsfbyO6dcza1II/cOVdbGSTHvXqO9v2eUeZ21Cr3N9SlvUSLCbhBsRvHAvJ JRroKUkbN0MwTF6gPkfjgE2Uk3ZP+cm4R5VBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wn0TmmEQ43eGL+1p0y48uC714dqSlbrhSbZj7hP9PH8X5JvtmTcQdceqgiNM6+DOOc mCvhLa7vUuv2IQCepYa175gr8ShvdbPXpagEikpC5xg79oLhbhK+kKQimIQYqIfgpmTH 8lXkxV1KrB1TtMiDOfo9q17Io4XBU1xht7wyg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.5.75 with SMTP id 11mr3447029bku.20.1257444560665; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:09:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <91c14fa90911051004p59ef67b5mea027eb16d1fdacc@mail.gmail.com> References: <26215804.post@talk.nabble.com> <91c14fa90911051004p59ef67b5mea027eb16d1fdacc@mail.gmail.com> From: Claus Ibsen Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:08:59 +0100 Message-ID: <5380c69c0911051008y638f8d22q90cccde20dcb62a9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Camel instead of jbpm? To: users@camel.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Bruno Borges wrote= : > =A01) Can Camel be used as a BPM/workflow engine? > > =A0 =A0Yes you can, but you would have to code a lot of stuff to accompli= sh > that. Camel is more just about routing messages and to apply EIPs. I gues= s > for business processes, Camel is not the way to go. Different problems. > Yeah Camel is not a workflow engine etc. Its a lightweight and very flexible integration kit. However integration between Camel and a workflow engine is possible. I know JBoss guys are working on Drools so I wonder if they want to do it for JBMP as well. > 2) Are Human tasks supported in Apache Camel? > > =A0 =A0I didn't get it. What do you mean about human tasks ? :D > I guess its something like a human business process that takes like 2 months to complete. And you need humans to change state in that workflow. Like a complaint system etc. > Cheers, > Bruno > > > > Bruno Borges > blog.brunoborges.com.br > +55 21 76727099 > > "The glory of great men should always be > measured by the means they have used to > acquire it." > - Francois de La Rochefoucauld > Sent from San Mateo, CA, United States > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Matteo Redaelli > wrote: > >> >> 1) Can Camel be used as a BPM/workflow engine? >> 2) Are Human tasks supported in Apache Camel? >> >> Thanks in advance >> Matteo >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://old.nabble.com/Camel-instead-of-jbpm--tp26215804p26215804.html >> Sent from the Camel - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > --=20 Claus Ibsen Apache Camel Committer Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen/ Open Source Integration: http://fusesource.com Blog: http://davsclaus.blogspot.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/davsclaus