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From: Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:43:20 +0000
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Subject: Re: what's happening to camel extra?
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Great,

I would be happy to do this new migration (already have the privileges
needed on the github organisation).
However I will wait an additional 72h just to see if there are any
objections :-)

// Pontus

On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 at 09:40 Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Yeah sure I think re-creating the code on github with latest from
> google code, and then add those PR's commits that are extra on github
> today could be the way forward.
>
> As we take the latest code from camel-extra then we are sure we have
> all the bits that people are using today from the official releases.
>
> About the extra mailing lists. I would actually prefer to not
> duplicate all the setup for extra, but just use this mailing list, and
> then the github issue tracker for the extra tickets. By using this
> mailing list then its much easier to share knowledge of the extra
> project. I dont think people bother to signup on endless number of
> mailing lists.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any thoughts or comments on this ?
> >
> > As I wrote above the two code bases has diverged but since the latest
> > official release has been made from the google code repo I think  it
> would
> > be best to treat this as the official repository and recreate the gihub
> > repo with a new import to from google code.
> >
> > Should we have a vote on this ? Or should this issue be handled on the
> > camel-extra mailing list instead ?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Pontus Ullgren
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 00:13 Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A short update.
> >> Looked through the commits in the google code repo and github and as a
> >> feared the two code bases has diverged with commits being done to both
> >> places.
> >>
> >> However I think I managed to juggle the commits for the master branch =
so
> >> that the result is something that is acceptable. I have yet to run tes=
ts
> >> and make sure things work as expected.
> >>
> >> I have not yet started looking into merging in the changes for the
> 2.13.x,
> >> 2.14.x and 2.15.x.
> >>
> >> However looking at the commit in github it seems to mainly be the
> >> contribution of Camel IBM CICS and Camel WMQ component. Both which I
> find a
> >> bit strange that they were even added to camel-extra since they have
> >> dependencies to libraries that are not publicly accessible, and must b=
e
> >> locally installed. So these will never be able to build and test in th=
e
> CI
> >> environment. Also I'm not sure about the possible licensing issues for
> >> these components. And will we be able to release them if the person in
> >> charge of the release does not have access to the closed source
> libraries ?
> >>
> >> So a possible, much simpler, way forward would be to rename the curren=
t
> >> github camel-extra repo, create a new and simply re-import from the
> current
> >> google code repo.
> >>
> >> We could then sit down and move over the commits that makes sense from
> the
> >> once that was done on github.
> >>
> >> Comments ?
> >>
> >> // Pontus
> >>
> >> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 at 15:51 Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, camel-extra copied to github quite some time ago. However after
> that
> >>> there was a period of uncertainty during which more commits and even
> >>> releases where made from the Google code repo up until the point wher=
e
> >>> google shutdown there service.
> >>>
> >>> As time has gone by it seems that there is a risk that the code bases
> has
> >>> diverge.
> >>> Is there anybody already looking into this? If not I would be happy t=
o
> >>> try to make sure that the latest code from Google code is synced to t=
he
> >>> github.com repositories.
> >>>
> >>> Regarding SF from the latest ComDev discussions it turns out that, at
> >>> least to my interpretation, it is up to each PMC to decide where and
> what
> >>> they want to do with their extras project. Nothing will be
> automatically
> >>> moved by apache infra.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards
> >>>
> >>> Pontus
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, 14:42 David Karlsen <davidkarlsen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> https://github.com/camel-extra/camel-extra
> >>>>
> >>>> 2015-10-31 14:01 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Sobkowiak <
> >>>> krzys.sobkowiak@gmail.com>:
> >>>> > Hi JB
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is going to move to
> >>>> Github. I thought it's done already. Have you already final descisio=
n
> about
> >>>> Camel Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev about moving to SF bu=
t
> the
> >>>> projects will be not forced to move together to SF. As i have seen
> Camel
> >>>> prefers Github. I'm looking for
> >>>> > instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git and I thought Came=
l
> >>>> has already finished this process.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Kindly regards
> >>>> > Krzysztof
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 wrote:
> >>>> >> Hi Krysztof,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> camel-extras are not on github right. I've done some cleanups and
> >>>> upgrades.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Regards
> >>>> >> JB
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote:
> >>>> >>> Hi
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Have you already performed the migration to Github? Have you don=
e
> it
> >>>> alone? I assume Infra doesn't support this process?
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Regards
> >>>> >>> Krzysztof
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote:
> >>>> >>>> I believe changing the package name would be a real problem for
> >>>> users of
> >>>> >>>> the library.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that package name since
> >>>> according
> >>>> >>>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev mailinglist [1] it is up
> to
> >>>> each
> >>>> >>>> projects PMC to decide how there extras project should be
> handled.
> >>>> >>>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel Extras source code
> >>>> should be
> >>>> >>>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to keep the package
> name
> >>>> as is.
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> [1]
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCAD=
mm+Kcy9C6rgoDshExGsrdUU7Jur06JwCs9YP-hc8MAPM6CCw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>> >>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian M=C3=BCller <
> >>>> christian.mueller@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>
> >>>> >>>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance from dev@communit=
y
> >>>> regarding
> >>>> >>>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm not convinced fro=
m
> SF.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Before we are releasing our first release there, please check
> with
> >>>> the
> >>>> >>>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can still use the name
> "Camel
> >>>> Extra"
> >>>> >>>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has apache and camel
> in
> >>>> it),
> >>>> >>>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache Extra anymore in
> the
> >>>> future,
> >>>> >>>>> in my opinion.
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Best,
> >>>> >>>>> Christian
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>> >>>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani" <raul@evosent.com
> >:
> >>>> >>>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel extras community
> feels
> >>>> >>>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It seems like the
> joint
> >>>> Apache
> >>>> >>>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated anyway.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there and sharing our
> >>>> concerns at
> >>>> >>>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we dealt with this issue=
.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update the links on the
> >>>> Apache Camel
> >>>> >>>>>> website.
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>> Ra=C3=BAl.
> >>>> >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren" <ullgren@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Hello again,
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev beginning this month[1] a=
nd
> >>>> it seems
> >>>> >>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>>> be a dead end.
> >>>> >>>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up to the PMCs.
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] I think we shoul=
d
> go
> >>>> ahead
> >>>> >>>>> and
> >>>> >>>>>>> continue the move to github.
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> Best regards
> >>>> >>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCAB=
e1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>> [2]
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCAD=
mm+Kcy9C6rgoDshExGsrdUU7Jur06JwCs9YP-hc8MAPM6CCw@mail.gmail.com%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>> [3]
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078=
472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>> [4]
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C3011262=
99.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.co=
m
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is superior to what
> SF
> >>>> offers
> >>>> >>>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github) for camel-extra =
I
> >>>> don't
> >>>> >>>>> think
> >>>> >>>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big a deal.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses
> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble (
> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/)
> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees (
> >>>> >>>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/
> >>>> >>>>> )
> >>>> >>>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube (
> >>>> >>>>>>>> http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228)
> >>>> >>>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian (
> >>>> >>>>>>>> https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX)
> >>>> >>>>>>>> * End user component documentations are hosted on the main
> camel
> >>>> >>>>> project
> >>>> >>>>>>>> wiki
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code the only thing th=
at
> >>>> it was
> >>>> >>>>> used
> >>>> >>>>>>>> for was to
> >>>> >>>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific documentation such
> as
> >>>> >>>>> release
> >>>> >>>>>>>> notes and most important
> >>>> >>>>>>>> the GIT repo.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> So as long as the service provider provides git, a simple
> way of
> >>>> >>>>> hosting
> >>>> >>>>>>>> some documentation and
> >>>> >>>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good uptime on the servi=
ce
> >>>> in my
> >>>> >>>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal
> >>>> >>>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important thing is that we
> get
> >>>> this
> >>>> >>>>> up
> >>>> >>>>>>>> read-write ASAP.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> Just my $0.02
> >>>> >>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani <raul@evosent.co=
m
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the Apache Extras [1]
> >>>> umbrella...
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the point of grouping
> all
> >>>> >>>>> "extras"
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF umbrella =E2=80=93 I'=
m assuming
> >>>> it's
> >>>> >>>>> for
> >>>> >>>>>>> ASF
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely doesn't serve a
> technical
> >>>> >>>>> reason
> >>>> >>>>>>> nor
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras project is more
> closely
> >>>> >>>>> related
> >>>> >>>>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras project in ASF and (b)
> the
> >>>> roles
> >>>> >>>>> in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some correlation with
> the
> >>>> roles
> >>>> >>>>> at
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not necessarily tied together,
> i.e.
> >>>> >>>>> there's
> >>>> >>>>>>> no
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in camel-extras has to be a
> >>>> committer
> >>>> >>>>> in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Ra=C3=BAl.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob Davies <
> >>>> rajdavies@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to
> SF
> >>>> - its
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn=E2=80=99t want multiple target=
s - so to
> >>>> pick
> >>>> >>>>> one
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes sense. However its no=
t
> >>>> clear
> >>>> >>>>> that
> >>>> >>>>>>> we
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn=E2=80=
=99t just
> move
> >>>> it
> >>>> >>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> GitHub
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ourselves ?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <
> ullgren@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev
> mailing
> >>>> >>>>> list
> >>>> >>>>>>> and
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> enlighten them.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-)
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY=
2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.co=
m%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen <
> >>>> >>>>> davidkarlsen@gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not github?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NO=C3=8BL" <
> >>>> >>>>>>> victor.noel@linagora.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of
> an
> >>>> >>>>> Apache
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Project
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision=
?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the
> Gimp
> >>>> >>>>> people
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> told
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> SF
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insist=
ed
> >>>> >>>>> during
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> 2015:
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.htm=
l
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.htm=
l
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a =C3=A9crit :
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the
> Apache
> >>>> >>>>> Extras
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensu=
s
> >>>> seems
> >>>> >>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> point
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal
> >>>> >>>>> preference)
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> or
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ra=C3=BAl Kripalani*
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise
> >>>> Architect,
> >>>> >>>>> Open
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Source
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NO=C3=8BL <
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> victor.noel@linagora.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a
> good
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> solution?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by
> >>>> >>>>> implanting
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> adware
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers available to download
> there.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp
> project
> >>>> >>>>> (that
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wasn't
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge=E2=80=A6).
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy=
_ads_and_installer/
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a =C3=A9crit :
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set
> of
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> contributors
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the
> project
> >>>> >>>>> once
> >>>> >>>>>>> it
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> has
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved).
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of
> the SF
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> migration.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek <
> >>>> >>>>> hekonsek@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are
> being
> >>>> >>>>> moved to
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> the...
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willin=
g
> to
> >>>> >>>>>>> maintain
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after  SourceForge migration.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 u=C5=BCytkownik Pontus Ull=
gren <
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullgren@gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisa=C5=82:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev
> mailing
> >>>> list
> >>>> >>>>> no.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that
> >>>> seems
> >>>> >>>>> to be
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani <
> >>>> >>>>> raul@evosent.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the
> >>>> Apache
> >>>> >>>>>>> Extras
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras
> >>>> >>>>>>> components...
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but
> found no
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> conclusion.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend t=
o
> get
> >>>> >>>>> very
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> chatty
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion
> email.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ra=C3=BAl Kripalani*
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise
> >>>> >>>>> Architect,
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Open
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani |
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren =
<
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ullgren@gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   From this thread[1]  it seems that Daniel Gruno
> is
> >>>> the
> >>>> >>>>> one
> >>>> >>>>>>> in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> charge
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the
> >>>> progress
> >>>> >>>>> or
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> roadmap.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem =
to
> >>>> be a
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> option in
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion t=
o
> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> camel-dev
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C5=
59EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3CB=
Y2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900@BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com=
%3E
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph
> Emmersberger <
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cemmersb@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? W=
e
> >>>> have
> >>>> >>>>> still
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ...
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgre=
n
> <
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ullgren@gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list
> shows
> >>>> >>>>> that it
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> will
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache
> >>>> extra.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/brow=
ser
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren <
> >>>> >>>>> ullgren@gmail.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][=
2]
> >>>> and
> >>>> >>>>> the
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2].
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any
> >>>> >>>>> conclusion on
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> this
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.=
html
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt57=
65822.html
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3]
> >>>> >>>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon <
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon.ml@gmail.com>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch
> to
> >>>> read
> >>>> >>>>>>> only
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/=
)
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuf=
f?
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM,
> >>>> d=C3=A9velopp=C3=A9e
> >>>> >>>>> et
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> support=C3=A9e
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez =C3=A0 la R&D du produit en souscrivant =
=C3=A0 une
> offre
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> entreprise.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM,
> >>>> d=C3=A9velopp=C3=A9e
> >>>> >>>>> et
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> support=C3=A9e
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez =C3=A0 la R&D du produit en souscrivant =C3=
=A0 une
> offre
> >>>> >>>>>>>>> entreprise.
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Krzysztof Sobkowiak
> >>>> >
> >>>> > JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect
> >>>> > Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/)
> >>>> > Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (
> >>>> http://servicemix.apache.org/)
> >>>> > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (
> >>>> http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/)
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > 33rd Degree 4charity (http://2015.33degree.org/)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> David J. M. Karlsen - http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidkarlsen
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>
>
> --
> Claus Ibsen
> -----------------
> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>

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