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From: Pontus Ullgren <ullgren@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:18:27 +0000
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Move camel-extra from google code to github ?
To: Andrea Cosentino <ancosen1985@yahoo.com>,
 "dev@camel.apache.org" <dev@camel.apache.org>
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I also agree that GitHub should be the home of Camel Extra.
Looking at the ComDev discussion it seems clear that different Apache Extra
projects have very different needs and purpose for why they exist.

Camel Extra needs to be available and invite contributions from developers.
The binary release hosting has been, and I assume will continue to be, done
via maven central and the Sonytype services.

While looking at AOO which seems to have there extras mainly as a place to
store libraries used by internal developers. If I read the discussion on
ComDev correctly.

Just my 0.02 SEK
Pontus Ullgren


On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 at 12:34 Andrea Cosentino <ancosen1985@yahoo.com.invali=
d>
wrote:

> You're right. Today GitHub is the first choice in every new open source
> project.
> I hope they take the right decision.
>
>
>      On Friday, April 17, 2015 11:47 AM, Henryk Konsek <hekonsek@gmail.co=
m>
> wrote:
>
>
>  They're considering SourceForge? Come on, guys... We have 2015, we shoul=
d
> use GitHub with the proper pull requests, like the civilized communities
> do.
>
> I propose then to fallback to Google Code again until we know the
> final dev-community decision is. @Greg, can you backport the changes you
> committed to the GitHub back to the Google Code again?
>
> Guys, please send the mail to dev-community if you want Camel Extra to us=
e
> GitHub. The more our voices there, the better.
>
> Laters!
>
> pt., 17 kwi 2015 o 00:12 u=C5=BCytkownik Christian M=C3=BCller <
> christian.mueller@gmail.com> napisa=C5=82:
>
> > Would like to see your comment on the Apache ComDev mailing list to
> discuss
> > this with the other projects. We are not the only XYZ extra project in
> the
> > Apache space.
> > And it's not only about code and infrastructure. It's about the (Apache=
)
> > community [1]. It's easy to write (good) code - it's hard to build a
> (good)
> > community. That's where many projects failed over the last years...
> >
> > Again, I'm not against GitHub. Please join the discussion at Apache
> ComDev
> > and make your statement there - and may all Apache XYZ extra projects
> will
> > end up there.
> >
> > [1] http://communityovercode.com/
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christian
> > -----------------
> >
> > Software Integration Specialist
> >
> > Apache Member
> > V.P. Apache Camel | Apache Camel PMC Member | Apache Camel committer
> > Apache Incubator PMC Member
> >
> > https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-mueller/11/551/642
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Henryk Konsek <hekonsek@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 for GitHub
> > >
> > > I believe that it's up to us where to move Camel Extra. We can even
> fork
> > > the project as "Camel Extra Extra" if necessary ;) Apache Extras
> doesn't
> > > provide us anything - no infra, anything like that. The committers
> > > convenience should be a priority for us. IMHO ;)
> > >
> > > czw., 16 kwi 2015 o 21:40 u=C5=BCytkownik Christian M=C3=BCller <
> > > christian.mueller@gmail.com> napisa=C5=82:
> > >
> > > > -1 at this time.
> > > >
> > > > Google Code is writable until 24th August 2015. There is no need to
> > rush
> > > > with this decision [1].
> > > > As mentioned before by others, there is an ongoing discussion at
> Apache
> > > > ComDev [2] where to move with the Apache Extras project. Please
> > > follow/join
> > > > this discussion. Camel Extras is a part of Apache Extras.
> > > > Don't get me wrong, I like GitHub, but I don't think it's our
> decision
> > > > where to move with Camel Extras.
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://google-opensource.blogspot.de/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html
> > > > [2]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201503.mbox/%3CBY2=
PR03MB490C7E337B81A9FD74DAD9E99060%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com=
%3E
> > > >
> > > > My 0,02 =E2=82=AC,
> > > > Christian
> > > > -----------------
> > > >
> > > > Software Integration Specialist
> > > >
> > > > Apache Member
> > > > V.P. Apache Camel | Apache Camel PMC Member | Apache Camel committe=
r
> > > > Apache Incubator PMC Member
> > > >
> > > > https://www.linkedin.com/pub/christian-mueller/11/551/642
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Willem Jiang <
> willem.jiang@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please add me in, my github account is WillemJiang.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Willem Jiang
> > > > >
> > > > > Red Hat, Inc.
> > > > > Web: http://www.redhat.com
> > > > > Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English)
> > > > > http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese)
> > > > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > > > Weibo: =E5=A7=9C=E5=AE=81willem
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On April 13, 2015 at 2:10:01 AM, Greg Autric (gautric@redhat.com)
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I finished to push the code to github
> > > > > https://github.com/camel-extra/camel-extra
> > > > > > and started creating the website
> > > > http://camel-extra.github.io/index.html
> > > > > (very
> > > > > > quickly)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We should stop to commit anything on google code and create a
> link
> > to
> > > > > github repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should get an github invitation for managing github repo,
> tell
> > me
> > > > if
> > > > > I miss you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > see u
> > > > > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Greg AUTRIC
> > > > > > JBoss Middleware Consultant
> > > > > >
> > > > > > twitter: @gautric_io
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from webmail
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > > > > De: "Krzysztof Sobkowiak"
> > > > > > =C3=80: dev@camel.apache.org
> > > > > > Envoy=C3=A9: Samedi 11 Avril 2015 15:41:47
> > > > > > Objet: Re: [PROPOSAL] Move camel-extra from google code to
> github ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think Github is a good idea. We have some stuff in
> > servicemix-extra
> > > > > too and we must find
> > > > > > a new place for it. We
> > > > > > haven't stared the discussion yet. If Github, there is another
> > > > question.
> > > > > Should it be
> > > > > > a separate Github organization
> > > > > > like apache-camel-extra or should it be a part of something
> common
> > > with
> > > > > other Apache
> > > > > > extra projects, e.g. something
> > > > > > under apache-extra Github organization. I have seen on DevCom
> > > > discussion
> > > > > has already
> > > > > > reserved the name in Github for
> > > > > > this purpose.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Krzysztof
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11.04.2015 14:56, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah I think github is a great home.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It would be good if we can get Christoph (cemmersb) on board
> who
> > > has
> > > > > > > been active on camel-extra to hear his thoughts.
> > > > > > > And then get regular releases started again so we can try to
> get
> > > new
> > > > > > > releases out that matches the versions from ASF.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Especially if we can make the release procedure simpler at
> github
> > > so
> > > > > > > more people can do them and they are simpler and faster to do=
.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Greg Autric wrote:
> > > > > > >> Hi All,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> as you know google code will close soon.
> > > > > > >> What do you think about migrating camel-extra from google co=
de
> > to
> > > > > github ?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> please vote
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Greg I/O
> > > > > > >> JBoss Middleware Consultant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Krzysztof Sobkowiak
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JEE & OSS Architect
> > > > > > Apache Software Foundation Member
> > > > > > Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC chair
> > > > > > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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