Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-camel-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-camel-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E05D311DEB for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:22:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32226 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2014 07:22:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-camel-dev-archive@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 32183 invoked by uid 500); 18 Sep 2014 07:22:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@camel.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@camel.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@camel.apache.org Received: (qmail 32169 invoked by uid 99); 18 Sep 2014 07:22:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:22:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of willem.jiang@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.53 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.53] (HELO mail-pa0-f53.google.com) (209.85.220.53) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 07:22:09 +0000 Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id rd3so885868pab.40 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=7H/7Tto4ubdS0Wc6wdRd8BnZVRtPdw+aV0nJYGvWbXQ=; b=UTF76r+zepnp8i5+0PHxisQagvXr2990LBQ6mMwpPtLqiI4ysLbXkuUBmvFJ3IL7Gz ds4X2fkQ2U8GHLwp4kaGYZRcYVfL5f7KPGot2vUZb56/tLmsgApdNcXurRFhlbMeftFa ayATCWbdKxcks8le8uR73BXZfGM4Xd3hOF1M1xK52qJw/xP6O/0MUWa5pEA0akAb0Vkn 4Y6mHyzolV3VDsZN87vd191vqmwR5icAnygnxEovWt01b6GcE2HtlrCkMH8y0XfsGw8J 63I2Av2R1AgQv988G+K7ibMmGsLJ60RrsNUxzi9FlcUoxSh8tY9/kmaLPv1DbuTHOkAV ga2g== X-Received: by 10.66.122.99 with SMTP id lr3mr3196308pab.0.1411024928362; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([125.34.13.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gu10sm11107873pbc.72.2014.09.18.00.22.00 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Sep 2014 00:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:21:52 +0800 From: Willem Jiang To: dev@camel.apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] - Documentation edit contributions to hard for ppl to do X-Mailer: Airmail (247) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org +1, for let all PMCs has the right to add users. In this way we can have more hands to help the users to get the document = edit right. -- =20 Willem Jiang Red Hat, Inc. Web: http://www.redhat.com Blog: http://willemjiang.blogspot.com (English) http://jnn.iteye.com (Chinese) Twitter: willemjiang =20 Weibo: =E5=A7=9C=E5=AE=81willem On September 18, 2014 at 1:25:15 AM, Christian M=C3=BCller (christian.mue= ller=40gmail.com) wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > =20 > > Hi > > > > I wonder if we can make it easier for people to help contribute to th= e > > wiki documentation=3F > > > > 1) > > =46or example if we do NOT ship any documentation in the release kit = (eg > > today we slurp all the website into one giant single .html file, whic= h > > has very limited usage). Then we could likely remove that barrier > > where people have to sign an ICLA and fax/email to AS=46 first. > > > > 2) > > Make it easier to let give edit rights to the wiki accounts. In the > > old days we could manage that ourself in the Camel team. But today it= s > > cumbersome as we need to involve AS=46 IN=46RA and whatnot. > > > =20 > On http://camel.apache.org/how-do-i-edit-the-website.html, we link to t= he > page Dan mentioned. I'm able to add new users and I was thinking all PM= Cs > have the right to do so... > =20 > =20 > > > > Bottom line, people dont want to jump the hoops to help with the docs= . > > And we the Camel team cannot spend ages in the =22workflow=22 either = to > > get people setup, where it takes days and weeks. > > > > So any thoughts=3F > > > > > > > > -- > > Claus Ibsen > > ----------------- > > Red Hat, Inc. > > Email: cibsen=40redhat.com > > Twitter: davsclaus > > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > > hawtio: http://hawt.io/ > > fabric8: http://fabric8.io/ > > > =20