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Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:33:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: thoughts on the camel-websocket component
From: Aki Yoshida <elakito@gmail.com>
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Hi Charles,
If you will be working on the atmosphere component, I will be
interested in collaborating with you. I'm currently more interested in
the websocket part than in the atmosphere component itself, as I
mentioned in my initial mail. We can use this list and irc for
communication.

thanks.
regards, aki


2013/9/11 Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com>:
> You are right, we need something which is web container agnostic. As
> atmosphere was in my todo list, maybe it is time to develop the
> camel-atmosphere component. If you are interested we can collaborate on
> that ?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Aki Yoshida <elakito@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> If we only support jetty, that will be fine. But to support tomcat, we
>> need a component that avoids using jetty's websocket API directly.
>> In this aspect, camel-cxf is different because its servlet is not
>> web-container specific and can also be used in a gemini/tomcat based
>> OSGi environment, as long as there is a mechanism for its servlet to
>> get registered. So there is this decoupling to the web container
>> implementation.
>>
>> Going for atmosphere will provide a similar decoupling.
>>
>> regards, aki
>>
>> 2013/9/10 Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Aki,
>> >
>> > As the camel-websocket component uses Jetty + WebSocket servlet of Jetty,
>> > that should not be a big change to add a property for the endpoint to
>> > request that we use Jetty deployed in Karaf, Felix, ... instead of
>> creating
>> > a local jetty instance. This is what we do with camel-cxf endpoint
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Aki Yoshida <elakito@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have been looking into the websocket component and  I was wondering
>> >> about a few things.
>> >>
>> >> First of all, I would like to make the component use the framework's
>> >> servlet if it's running in e.g., an OSGi container like karaf that has
>> >> jetty or another container that uses geminiweb/tomcat. I was using
>> >> Atmosphere to have the framework's servlet container picked up in both
>> >> environments.
>> >>
>> >> I saw ticket CAMEL-5353 "camel-atmosphere - A new component for
>> >> portable websocket integration" and this seems to imply the
>> >> introduction of a new atmosphere specific component that might go
>> >> beyond the websocket functionality. Or is this intended for just a new
>> >> websocket component? I think Claus created this ticket when there was
>> >> a question in the mailing list about making the component work with
>> >> tomcat. I don't know its scope and status  and if someone is working
>> >> on this.
>> >>
>> >> Another thing I was wondering about is that we should also have a
>> >> client-side websocket so that we can post data to an external
>> >> websocket. As the current websocket's producer mode writes back to the
>> >> server side websocket, we will need a new syntax for this usage, maybe
>> >> using the ws URL. This could be used in both the producer and consumer
>> >> modes as in the websocket component.
>> >>
>> >> If you could comment on this, that would be very appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> regards, aki
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Charles Moulliard
>> > Apache Committer / Architect @RedHat
>> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Charles Moulliard
> Apache Committer / Architect @RedHat
> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com