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From Robert Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Google Plus - Apache Group
Date Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:03:32 GMT
It is *NOT* OK to make defamatory comments about an organisation,
individuals or groups of people and use rumour and innuendo to do so.

On 1 February 2013 15:31, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rob, just drop it. You know very well James is right. A similar complaint
> was made just a few days ago about Fuse's behavior. This is nothing new,
> there is a long list of abuses from Fuse over quite a few years.
>
> James, I would not include RedHat here. RedHat employees are involved in
> other ASF projects, yet that do not exhibit the same clique behavior and an
> incomprehensible push for immediate financial or other gains. I kinda of
> understood that when Fuse was desperate to sell, and now that they did, I
> really hoped they stopped. Unfortunately it looks like like it.
>
> Rob is correct that the *rest of* the PMC was diligent in increasing the
> diversity and protecting its mark, however the problems and challenges
> didn't come from the outside. Funny thing... But we proved many a time that
> we can take on a challenge, no biggie.
>
> Hopefully the Fuse clique will take the message and slow down (at least
> for a while, because I am not naive enough to imagine that they'll ever
> stop). So, you know, the ASF got (at least) one thing right: it's not the
> companies, it's the people.
>
> James, hats(*) off for speaking your mind. Rob, think hard about this one.
> If you're really keen on hearing more on this subject, I have no doubts you
> will, but beware what you wish for.
>
>
> Hadrian
> (*) with both the PMC member *and* ASF member hats in his *hand*.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 02/01/2013 10:06 AM, Robert Davies wrote:
>
>> James - that's a strong statement.  I think the Camel PMC is more
>> diligent than most in protecting its diversity and marks.
>>
>> On 1 Feb 2013, at 14:44, James Carman <jcarman@carmanconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I'm not a Camel committer or PMC member, but I *am* an ASF member and I
>>> find it troubling how much Fuse/RedHat uses these lists to promote
>>> themselves (like a picture of a camel wearing a red hat).  Hopefully they
>>> don't use their influence in any other inappropriate ways.
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 9:09 AM, James Carman <jcarman@carmanconsulting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  A picture of a camel with a red hat on with the words "Apache Camel."
>>>>  Really?
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> For our supporters/fans and people who belong in Apache Camel project,
>>>>> I
>>>>> would like to inform you that we have created a Google Plus community
>>>>> for
>>>>> Camel (https://plus.google.com/u/0/**communities/**
>>>>> 106271384875356488225<https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/106271384875356488225>
>>>>> ).
>>>>> Don't hesitate to send us yours pictures/events and initiate great
>>>>> discussion
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charles Moulliard
>>>>> Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
>>>>> Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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