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From Christian Schneider <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][CAMEL-3.0] Does camel need a web console
Date Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:49:56 GMT
I am also +1 to remove it.


Am 26.01.2013 00:43, schrieb Hadrian Zbarcea:
> I'd keep this thread short and focus on achieving consensus (if 
> possible) on what to do with the existing console. So far it looks to 
> me like there is (almost(*)) consensus on not having the console part 
> of the camel distro.
> The contenders are:
> 1. James proposal to move it to the sandbox (as an alternative to my 
> subproject suggestoin). I think that's an even better alternative. If 
> there is enough interest it can grow in the sandbox and then we can 
> decide on its future, uhm, future.
> 2. Get rid of it completely (Rob and Dan).
> I am in favor of both with a slight bias towards 2. From the thread 
> it's not yet clear if the balance tips one way or another, so let's 
> keep the discussion going, looks like this will be easy to sort out.
> Cheers,
> Hadrian
> (*) @cmoulliard: I agree with your point, but it helps way more to 
> sell said technology if you had sharp looking eye candy. History 
> indicates that it's not likely to get that from the current camel 
> distro, yet more likely to get it from karaf, or other places 
> (ALv2 licensed on top of everything).
> On 01/25/2013 06:05 PM, Christian Schneider wrote:
>> I think even both may be possible. We could have plugins for apache
>> projects that are written inside the projects or outside. Depending on
>> the interest of a project to build such a plugin and the feasibility to
>> develop it independent of the project release cycle.
>> The core part of my idea is though to have cooporation of multiple
>> organizations and projects towards such a management framework. I think
>> this is too big for one company to succeed on its own and I have seen
>> too many similar projects fail.
>> Christian
>> Am 25.01.2013 23:57, schrieb Guillaume Nodet:
>>> On the other hand, if the plugin is developped outside the Camel 
>>> project,
>>> it could be written to support multiple camel versions at the same 
>>> time,
>>> especially older versions.  Which might be harder (though not 
>>> impossible)
>>> if hosted inside camel project itself.
>>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Christian Schneider <
>>>> wrote:

Christian Schneider

Open Source Architect
Talend Application Integration Division

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