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From Christian Müller <christian.muel...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub commenting [httpd])
Date Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:59:19 GMT
Thanks all for the valuable input.
I think there are a few points where we have slightly different
interpretations from what is written down (or not). I want to clarify this
on the appropriate mailing list (to make sure our official Apache project
and our Apache extra project follows the guidelines). From the link [1] I
think it's dev@community.apache.org. I will start a new thread there and
point to this one.

[1]
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_launches

Thanks again,
Christian

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Doug Cutting <cutting@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Apache communities do a *ton* of things. If the community is helping to
> >> manage non-ASF stuff... no biggy.
> >>
> >> The ASF websites and releases have very clear requirements on
> vendor-neutral
> >> ALv2 work. If a PMC/community can clearly delineate any work outside of
> >> that... great.
> >>
> >> Just don't confuse our users.
> >
> > I'm a bit confused.  If a PMC is coordinating work, no matter where
> > it's hosted, isn't that ASF activity?  I've always assumed that work
> > on GPL-licensed stuff at apache-extras should be done by individuals
> > (who may happen to also do work at Apache), but that an Apache PMC
> > should not coordinate that work.  That a product is controlled by an
> > Apache PMC seems to me stronger evidence that it's an official Apache
> > product than that it's hosted on Apache-owned servers.  (Not to
> > mention that using Apache mailing lists for that coordination does
> > host part of the project on Apache-owned servers.)
> >
> > When we launched Apache Extras we said that, "projects on the new
> > Google-hosted service will not be managed by The Apache Software
> > Foundation".  To me that meant that PMCs should not manage projects
> > there.
> >
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_launches
> >
> > Am I misunderstanding your statements above?  Or is my interpretation
> > of policy too strict here?
> >
> > Doug
>
> And here is the current official Guidelines for Apache-Extras projects
>
> http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/guidelines.html
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>



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