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From Christian Müller <christian.muel...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub commenting [httpd])
Date Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:29:21 GMT
Sorry for being inaccurate. I didn't understood your response as you mean
it (only after your last mail). I'm not an English native speaker. Please
have understanding for it...

We cannot move the camel-extra sources to Apache hardware because they have
dependencies which are not allowed at Apache (e.g. the camel-hibernate
component use Hibernate which is LGPL v2.1).

May be I have a wrong understanding what the purpose of Apache-Extra is. Do
you have any pointers for me where I can verify my comprehension?

Best,
Christian

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>wrote:

> Christian Müller wrote on Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 19:50:04 +0200:
> > This was the second time I tried to resolve this issue. Again without
> > success... Before I will ask the board for other options as Daniel
> > suggested (in the first mail thread about this started in July), I want
> to
>
> All I said in the message you refer to boils down to "'Source code of
> Apache projects must live on Apache hardware' is a Board-level policy"
> (not just an infra policy).
>
> Next time, if you quote me, please make it clear what I said.  From
> reading your message one could think I told you to ask the board about
> a mail moderation problem.
>
> > make sure we see no other possibilities. The status is:
> > - For our Camel-extra project at Apache-extra [1] we configured the mail
> > notification by sending mails to commits@camel.apache.org for SVN
> commits
> > and new Issues.
> > - We do not receive these mails on our mailing list.
> > - The mailing list moderators also doesn't see any mails from Camel-extra
> > (The mails should be sent from
> camel-extra.apache-extras.org@codespot.com).
> > - We didn't got any notifications about bounced mails at Camel-extra and
> I
> > don't know somebody by Google Code who could track down this issue on
> this
> > side.
> > - We're stuck so far...
> >
> > Any idea what we could do?
> >
> > [1] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/
> >
> > Best,
> > Christian
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Christian Müller <
> > christian.mueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the invitation Dan, I will think about it... ;-)
> > > I assume the mails are being trapped before they reach the list. At
> Google
> > > code we do not have any possibilities to check this, as far as I
> know...
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Christian
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> On Sep 13, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Christian should have emailed his dev list and asked who the
> moderators
> > >> > are.  Having apmail volunteers do stuff the moderators can do
> doesn't
> > >> > scale.
> > >>
> > >> As a point of note:  as a moderator for those lists, I don't remember
> > >> seeing any messages from those lists come into the moderator queue.
> > >> Otherwise I would have moderated them through like I do for
> everything that
> > >> comes in via nabble.   (could have missed them though)   We'll need
> to keep
> > >> an eye on it to see if the "allow" stuff actually works or if the
> messages
> > >> are being trapped in the spam filters prior to even getting to the
> lists.
> > >> That's for Christian and I (and the other moderators) to sort through
> and
> > >> see what happens.
> > >>
> > >> Another thought for Christian:  you *could* volunteer to be an
> additional
> > >> moderator for those lists.   :-)
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Sam Ruby wrote on Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 21:19:00 -0400:
> > >> >> On Sep 12, 2012 8:51 PM, "Gavin McDonald" <gavin@16degrees.com.au>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I do believe Sebb  was correct in his actions, if no moderators
> did
> > >> their
> > >> >> (volunteer) jobs then we’d have an awful lot of 30 second jobs
to
> do.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> +1
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Trying to filter out jobs that can be self-accomplished is
not a
> bad
> > >> >> thing I don’t think.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> However, we only get a few of these and am only happy to help
> out, so,
> > >> >> done.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Gav…
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gstein@gmail.com]
> > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012 8:05 AM
> > >> >>> To: Christian Müller
> > >> >>> Cc: infra@apache.org; Sam Ruby; issues-owner@camel.apache.org;
> > >> >> commits-owner@camel.apache.org
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub
> > >> commenting
> > >> >> [httpd])
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> And now it looks like Infra is punting their 30 seconds of
work
> back
> > >> to
> > >> >> you (the Jira is closed/wontfix already). "A job for the
> moderator".
> > >> So now
> > >> >> we have to contact them (cc'd). And have one of them send the
> email.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Good Luck,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -g
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Christian Müller <
> > >> >> christian.mueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'm not a moderator, so I filled a JIRA [1].
> > >> >>> Thanks again for helping Greg.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5268
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Best,
> > >> >>> Christian
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I meant you, Christian. :-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'm not an ezmlm expert, so maybe an infra person can correct
me
> if
> > >> this
> > >> >> is wrong, but I think you can send an email like:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> to: commits-allow-camel-extra.apache-extras.org=
> > >> >> codespot.com@camel.apache.org
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I believe that you need to be one of the moderators to remotely
> change
> > >> >> the allow list like that.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Worst case, file an INFRA ticket to tweak the allow list on
your
> two
> > >> >> mailing lists.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -g
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Christian Müller <
> > >> >> christian.mueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Sorry, I only respond to Greg. Forwarding my response to INFRA.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> >>> From: Christian Müller <christian.mueller@gmail.com>
> > >> >>> Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 PM
> > >> >>> Subject: Re: Apache Extras notifications (was: Disable GitHub
> > >> commenting
> > >> >> [httpd])
> > >> >>> To: Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks for the fast reply.
> > >> >>> By saying "you", do you mean me or INFRA? I don't know how
I
> could do
> > >> >> this, but I would be happy to do it...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Best,
> > >> >>> Christian
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> In the administration screens, it states what email address
will
> be
> > >> used
> > >> >> for those notifications:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  camel-extra.apache-extras.org@codespot.com
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You can add that to the "allow" list for issues@camel.apache.organd
> > >> >> commits@camel.apache.org. That should let the notifications
> through.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -g
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Christian Müller <
> > >> >> christian.mueller@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I apologize for hijacking this thread, but we have similar
> challenges
> > >> >> with our Camel-Extra project [1] at Apache-Extra.
> > >> >>> - We do not get any notification on our mailing list is somebody
> > >> opens an
> > >> >> Issue there.
> > >> >>> - We do not get any commit notification on our mailing list.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> It would be nice if we could improve this in the future. I
already
> > >> >> configured the forward possibilities they offer, but it looks
like
> we
> > >> >> (Apache) reject the mails. I do not get any error messages from
> Google
> > >> >> code. I have no idea how to proceed...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> [1] http://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks for your patience,
> > >> >>> Christian
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>> Error! Filename not specified.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Daniel Kulp
> > >> dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> > >> Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
>



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