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From Claus Ibsen <>
Subject Re: [Discuss] How to do JMX in Apache Camel?
Date Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:48:44 GMT
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <> wrote:
> Claus, this seems to be a recurring theme that offended people in the past.
> I didn't say anything about this yet, but personally, I don't take it well
> either.
> To put it nicely, I will point out that nobody asked for Camel either and I
> know quite a few guys who would swear it was not needed. It's just that some
> guys thought it would be a good idea and it turned out that they were right.
> Keep this in mind in your future comments about what should go into Apache
> Camel (and what shouldn't).

What a silly remark you have about this.
Comparing "cut a functionality" vs "an entire OSS project".

We in the community are to discuss freely in the public about the
development of Camel.
And this is the place to do so.

I just express my mind that cutting a functionality that is used by
end users of Camel is something
that we should have a good reason for doing so. That's all. And its of
course my view of this.
Christian may have another view. So its a debate. And people in the
community should/can participate.

Now you are also out of line when you say something about "offended
people in the past" in this context.
He we discuss JMX functionality of Camel. And whether we should also
support MXBean interfaces.
And whether to cut the JMX annotations. Which I think its a bad idea
(cut JMX annotations)
as they are used by end users of Camel as well. IMHO it would be
better to support both approaches (annotations + MXBean interfaces).

So Hadrian stick to the topic of the thread. If you want to insult me
then do it on the PMC.

> Cheers,
> Hadrian
> On 10/18/2011 02:11 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> Also it was not need and has not been requested by people so far, and thus
>> we have not added support for that in the past.

Claus Ibsen
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