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From Willem Jiang <>
Subject Re: What is the purpose of camel-core-xml? Move the code to camel-core?
Date Thu, 01 Sep 2011 01:32:08 GMT
camel-core doesn't have any third part dependencies (only slf4j).
But the whole camel project may have 450M third part dependency as it 
out of our control.

I think camel-core has some built-in components and EIP implementation 
helps user to start up a simple EIP journey by using a 1.6M tool without 
any pain, that is amazing impression of Camel.

I'm still OK if it is less then 3M.

On 9/1/11 4:15 AM, Donald Whytock wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Claus Ibsen<>  wrote:
>> The core is 1.6mb which is not bloated. In fact with the core you can
>> do really a lot with Camel, which impress
>> a lot of people, and help make the project a success it is today.
> In all fairness, 1.6 mb is bigger than the entire Felix framework,
> including the documentation.  The camel-core jar represents two-thirds
> of the volume of my deployed Felix OSGI application.
> Yes, the core does a lot, but how many people genuinely use all the
> features and built-in components?  Not that I'm necessarily advocating
> splitting it into all separate modules, since it would probably take
> up more space that way, what with the extra manifests and activators
> and all.
> But still, even if not "bloated", I might call it "non-trivially sized".
> Don

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