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From Christian Schneider <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] - Camel 2.9 - JMX and reducing Spring depdendency
Date Thu, 14 Jul 2011 15:00:49 GMT
I also think it is a good time now to get a bit more independent from 


Am 14.07.2011 08:53, schrieb Claus Ibsen:
> Hi
> Now that Camel 2.8 is getting close to being released. Its in vote.
> I took a bit time to writeup a design note about some goals for Camel 2.9.
> At first it please go read this wiki page:
> One of the reason I think this is a good idea is that Apache Camel is
> such a versatile project, being used in any kind of environment out
> there.
> We have end users who are keen on using JEE standards with CDI and
> whatnot. And they are most likely not using Spring Framework as JEE
> offers similar servies.
> Likewise OSGi blueprint is being a very compelling alternative to
> spring-dm in the world of OSGi.
> And another reason is to keep Camel lightweight. So being able to
> reduce the runtime JARs to
> only camel-core + slf4j API means we are as light as we can get.
> Currently you need 8+ Spring JARs just to enable and use JMX which is
> way overkill.
> And yes it will be full backwards compatible, so people can keep on
> using the Spring JMX annotations if they like.
> Any thoughts?

Christian Schneider

Open Source Architect
Talend Application Integration Division

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