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From Hadrian Zbarcea <>
Subject Re: Editing and removing pages on Apache Camel website without discussing first
Date Wed, 04 May 2011 14:57:37 GMT
"some draconian policy "
Well, I feel you're twisting mine.

Fine, let's make it very simple then. Can we use some common sense in advertising for products
and services?
Many spammers can make a case that at least some of their audience may benefit from viagra.


On May 4, 2011, at 10:37 AM, James Strachan wrote:

> On 4 May 2011 15:24, Hadrian Zbarcea <> wrote:
>> Mule is also an open source project and that had more of a relevance when Camel started
and was a Mule competitor. That page can go away too.
>> As James brilliantly stated: let's think of the Camel user's needs and address them.
For needs that go beyond a developer's need to understand and use Camel, such as getting support
or extra tools, the Camel community can add subtle hints (on the Support page as mentioned),
just because we're nice guys, but going beyond that is wrong. That's not our mission/role.
It may be your role as individuals/employees. Blog about it!
> I think you're twisting my words; if there's a good
> introduction/article/example/book/tool to help users use Camel we
> should be able to link to it within reason if its helpful to users;
> not have some draconian policy where we have only X pages frozen in
> stone forever as the only pages allowed to link to something off the
> domain.
> Forcing users to make extra clicks & navigation just to get to the
> right sections of 'safe pages' seems silly and doesn't seem to help
> users at all. I'm all for tidying things up and trying to limit the
> spread of links; but at the same time, hiding useful information from
> users or forcing them to perform unnecessary navigation or searches
> doesn't seem to be helping users at all. Balance is required between
> helping users find things easily and complying with whatever todays
> apache policy is on external links.
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