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From "Sergey Beryozkin (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Commented: (CAMEL-2169) Support identifiers for Camel routes
Date Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:10:52 GMT

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Sergey Beryozkin commented on CAMEL-2169:
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Hi Claus

> <camel:route id="{http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/receiver}endpoint">

it was a typo which I pointed out to in the follow-up comment.

Basically, here is the thing. I've tried to write a Camel route as part of the internal project.
I found it unnatural that I had to start a camel route in SMX from a "from:" route. None of
the other SMX components requires that an endpoint which might be targeted by some higher-level
endpoint needs to know about that higher-level endpoint.

Also I know that some composite routes like a static-recipients one, certainly does not have
to start "from:" 

It's not that is blocking me and happy to forget this issue for good. This issue is about
making it easy to write a Camel route so that it can be easily included in other higher-level
routing environments.

Consider a super complex route (using log: just for brewity.)

<camel:camelContext>
<camel:to uri="log:test" />
</camel:route>
</camel:camelContext>

I have a requirement now : reuse in SMX and Mule. So rather than have a camel component added
to Camel for integrating with every other container environment out there I'd probably just
implement a Mule adapter which would delegate from Mule routes to my camel route

But as I said - I'm ok with putting this issue to bed

thanks



> Support identifiers for Camel routes
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CAMEL-2169
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/CAMEL-2169
>             Project: Apache Camel
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: camel-core
>    Affects Versions: 2.2.0
>            Reporter: Sergey Beryozkin
>
> Camel routes embedded in camel contexts have no identifiers thus for a route to kick
in it has to start (in some cases at least) from a "from:" rule. Example from a route working
in SMX/JBI :
> <camel:camelContext>
> 	  <camel:route>
> 	     <camel:from uri="jbi:endpoint:http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/receiver/endpoint"
/>
>              <camel:to uri="jbi:endpoint:http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/staticlistener/staticendpoint"
/>
>           </camel:route>
> </camel:camelContext>
> The problem is that it makes a given route definition 'unportable' and requires a Camel
developer to know some cryptic details like the fully qualified name of the internal JBI endpoint.
> If I could do something like
> <camel:camelContext>
> 	  <camel:route id="{http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/receiver}endpoint">
>              <camel:to uri="jbi:endpoint:http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/staticlistener/staticendpoint"
/>
>           </camel:route>
> </camel:camelContext>
> then I'd be able to delegate to it easily from some other JBI endpoint, using targetService="person:endpoint"
> Likewise, camel routes could delegate to other routes :
> <camel:route id="{http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/receiver}endpoint">
>              <camel:to uri="route:http://servicemix.apache.org/samples/wsdl-first/staticlistener/staticendpoint"
/>
> </camel:route>

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