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From: Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbarcea@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Discussion] - Camel 1.5.1 - What should we add and what not
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:45:25 -0500
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Yeah, that's not a problem.  There's gonna be a big api change anyway.
What I think is also important is fixing the dependencies (remove the =20=

circular deps), this will allow us to move forward with a cleaner api.

Hadrian

On Nov 6, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Willem Jiang wrote:

> It sounds good.
> We'd better to be on the track of Camel 2.0  ASAP :)
>
> Willem
> Claus Ibsen wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Oh Willem wanted to do the verbs. Well he and Jonathan can get it =20
>> sorted. Willem could also continue doing his important work on =20
>> camel-cxf.
>>
>> Hadrian I doubt we have time to do anything for Camel 2.0.0 about =20
>> your great ideas of having the DSL auto generated. This is =20
>> something for the future such as Camel 3.0. 2.0 needs the API fixed =20=

>> and improved performance without all the copying. And then better =20
>> camel-jbi integration as well.
>>
>> So I guess we should let Willem and Jonathan have green lights for =20=

>> DSL renaming.
>>
>>
>>
>> Med venlig hilsen
>>
>> Claus Ibsen
>> ......................................
>> Silverbullet
>> Skovsg=E5rdsv=E6nget 21
>> 8362 H=F8rning
>> Tlf. +45 2962 7576
>> Web: www.silverbullet.dk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Strachan [mailto:james.strachan@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 6. november 2008 10:32
>> To: camel-dev@activemq.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [Discussion] - Camel 1.5.1 - What should we add and =20
>> what not
>>
>> Sounds good!
>>
>>
>> 2008/11/6 Claus Ibsen <ci@silverbullet.dk>:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I propose a work plan such as:
>>>
>>> You and Hadrian should work on the remaining issues with =20
>>> refactoring the API to remove the generics and get it as correct. =20=

>>> You are the best people for this work. Also very important that =20
>>> you guys look at the "remove unneeded copies of exchanges".
>>>
>>> Then Jonathan can work on the renaming of the DSL's. And he could =20=

>>> also help removing the stuff that has been marked as @deprecated. =20=

>>> He has already done some of this stuff before. And as a 2nd =20
>>> priority to find the gaps in the spring DSL vs. Java DSL.
>>>
>>> I would like to use this break to focus on the wiki documentation =20=

>>> and my tutorial that I need to continue on part 5.
>>>
>>>
>>> Med venlig hilsen
>>>
>>> Claus Ibsen
>>> ......................................
>>> Silverbullet
>>> Skovsg=E5rdsv=E6nget 21
>>> 8362 H=F8rning
>>> Tlf. +45 2962 7576
>>> Web: www.silverbullet.dk
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: James Strachan [mailto:james.strachan@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 6. november 2008 10:20
>>> To: camel-dev@activemq.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Discussion] - Camel 1.5.1 - What should we add and =20
>>> what not
>>>
>>> 2008/11/6 Claus Ibsen <ci@silverbullet.dk>:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Yeah could be a good idea to let 2.0.0 solely be focused on =20
>>>> changing the API.
>>>> - generics
>>>> - verbs for DSL
>>>> - remove @deprecated stuff
>>>>
>>>> And then we can be back on track with hammering 200+ issues every =20=

>>>> 3rd month.
>>> Yeah!  I kinda think we should focus almost exclusively on the stuff
>>> that might result in API changes ASAP. e.g. how fast can we get =20
>>> Camel
>>> when its being used as a JMS <-> JMS router or a JBI <-> JBI router.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> James
>>> -------
>>> http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> Open Source Integration
>>> http://fusesource.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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