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Subject [CONF] Apache Camel > Discussion Forums
Date Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:11:01 GMT
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    <h2><a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Discussion+Forums">Discussion
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    <h4>Page <b>edited</b> by             <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~davsclaus">Claus
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the user forum for you Camel questions, and asking for help. <br>* [Camel User Forum|http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Users-f465428.html]
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[Camel User Forum|http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Users-f465428.html] <br></td></tr>
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developer forum is *only* for discussing the development of the Camel project itself. It is
*NOT* for user help, and questions about &quot;how do I do ...&quot;. <br></td></tr>
            <tr><td class="diff-changed-lines" >* [Camel Developer Forum|http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Development-f479097.html]
<span class="diff-added-words"style="background-color: #dfd;"> &lt;-- do NOT use
this forum, unless its about the future development of Camel project itself.</span>
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            <tr><td class="diff-unchanged" > <br>h3. Mailing Lists <br></td></tr>
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        <h2><a name="DiscussionForums-DiscussionForums"></a>Discussion Forums</h2>

<p>Before posting you might want to read the <a href="http://activemq.apache.org/tips-for-getting-help.html"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Tips for getting help</a>.</p>

<p>Many users prefer to use online forums rather than joining a mail list which can
lead to lots more email traffic so we use the online forums at <a href="http://www.nabble.com/Apache-Camel-f22882.html"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Nabble forums</a> which also work with our <a
href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists" title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a>
so that both stay completely in sync. Use either the mailing lists or online forums, its completely
up to you.</p>

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valign='top'><img src="/confluence/images/icons/emoticons/information.gif" width="16"
height="16" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"></td><td><b>Must be a
subscriber when posting on forum</b><br />You have to be a subscriber of the <a
href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists" title="Mailing Lists">Camel mailinglist</a>
to be able to post on the user forum (Nabble) and have those posts forwarded to the Camel
mailinglist. It's on the Camel mailinglist where all the experts is listening and will be
able to help you. If you are <b>not</b> a subscriber your post will not be forwarded
and thus most people will not see your post.

<p>If you use Google Mail then it's easy to setup a rule which can move mails from the
mailinglist into a 'Camel user' label. This way its easy to organize your mailbox.</p></td></tr></table></div>

<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-PositingfromNabble"></a>Positing from Nabble</h3>

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valign='top'><img src="/confluence/images/icons/emoticons/forbidden.gif" width="16"
height="16" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"></td><td><b>Issues with
Nabble</b><br />There are three major issues if you use Nabble
<ul class="alternate" type="square">
	<li>you must be a subscriber of the mailing list, to have your mails forwarded to the
real mailing list. If not the mails will have to be moderated, which takes extra time, and
put burden on the Camel team, having to moderate mails.</li>
	<li><b>TURN OFF HTML MAILS!</b> - Mails as plain text is generally more
accepted by the Apache mailing list than HTML mails (latter is more SPAM infected))</li>
	<li>any XML you paste and post from Nabble is removed and not included in the mails
forwarded to the real mailing list</li>
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<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-CamelForums"></a><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Camel Forums</a></h3>

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valign='top'><img src="/confluence/images/icons/emoticons/information.gif" width="16"
height="16" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"></td><td><b>Please use
the User Forum for you Camel questions</b><br />"You should post the Camel User
Forum for all your questions on using Camel, or how to do X with Camel etc. If in doubt use
this list.<br/>
The other Camel Developer User Forum, is for the Camel team to discus development of the actual
Camel project; do not use this list for question on using Camel.<br/>
Again to re-iterate, use the Camel User Forum, for you Camel questions. This is the correct
mailing list, and have the most people there ready for helping you."</td></tr></table></div>

<p>Use the user forum for you Camel questions, and asking for help.</p>
<ul>
	<li><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Users-f465428.html" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow">Camel User Forum</a>  &lt;-- Use this forum</li>
</ul>


<p>The developer forum is <b>only</b> for discussing the development of
the Camel project itself. It is <b>NOT</b> for user help, and questions about
"how do I do ...".</p>
<ul>
	<li><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Development-f479097.html" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow">Camel Developer Forum</a>  &lt;-- do NOT use this forum, unless
its about the future development of Camel project itself.</li>
</ul>


<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-MailingLists"></a>Mailing Lists</h3>

<p>If you prefer to use a mailing list instead then check out our <a href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists"
title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a>. Note that the Forums and <a href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists"
title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a> are kept in sync so its your choice which
you use.</p>
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