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Subject [CONF] Apache Camel > Discussion Forums
Date Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:05:00 GMT
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    <h2><a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CAMEL/Discussion+Forums">Discussion
Forums</a></h2>
    <h4>Page <b>edited</b> by             <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~davsclaus">Claus
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            <tr><td class="diff-unchanged" >- you must be a subscriber of the
mailing list, to have your mails forwarded to the real mailing list <br></td></tr>
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*TURN OFF HTML MAILS!* - Mails as plain text is generally more accepted by the Apache mailing
list than HTML mails (latter is more SPAM infected)) <br></td></tr>
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Nabble is removed and not included in the mails forwarded to the real mailing list <br>
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        <h2><a name="DiscussionForums-DiscussionForums"></a>Discussion Forums</h2>

<p>Before posting you might want to read the <a href="http://activemq.apache.org/tips-for-getting-help.html"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Tips for getting help</a>.</p>

<p>Many users prefer to use online forums rather than joining a mail list which can
lead to lots more email traffic so we use the online forums at <a href="http://www.nabble.com/Apache-Camel-f22882.html"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Nabble forums</a> which also work with our <a
href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists" title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a>
so that both stay completely in sync. Use either the mailing lists or online forums, its completely
up to you.</p>

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valign='top'><img src="/confluence/images/icons/emoticons/information.gif" width="16"
height="16" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"></td><td><b>Must be a
subscriber when posting on forum</b><br />You have to be a subscriber of the <a
href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists" title="Mailing Lists">Camel mailinglist</a>
to be able to post on the user forum (Nabble) and have those posts forwarded to the Camel
mailinglist. It's on the Camel mailinglist where all the experts is listening and will be
able to help you. If you are <b>not</b> a subscriber your post will not be forwarded
and thus most people will not see your post.

<p>If you use Google Mail then it's easy to setup a rule which can move mails from the
mailinglist into a 'Camel user' label. This way its easy to organize your mailbox.</p></td></tr></table></div>

<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-PositingfromNabble"></a>Positing from Nabble</h3>

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valign='top'><img src="/confluence/images/icons/emoticons/forbidden.gif" width="16"
height="16" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"></td><td><b>Issues with
Nabble</b><br />There are three major issues if you use Nabble
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	<li>you must be a subscriber of the mailing list, to have your mails forwarded to the
real mailing list</li>
	<li><b>TURN OFF HTML MAILS!</b> - Mails as plain text is generally more
accepted by the Apache mailing list than HTML mails (latter is more SPAM infected))</li>
	<li>any XML you paste and post from Nabble is removed and not included in the mails
forwarded to the real mailing list</li>
</ul>


<p>So we advice you to <b>not</b> use Nabble but use the real mailing list,
using a mail client.</p></td></tr></table></div>

<p>Are you really a subscriber? When you see the big warning, then make sure you have
subscriber to the mailinglist. Otherwise the mails is not forwarded. All the experts and people
from the community do not browse Nabble and therefore a big chance nobody will be able to
help you.</p>

<p><span class="image-wrap" style=""><img src="/confluence/download/attachments/53836/nabble-warn.png?version=1&amp;modificationDate=1280934567000"
style="border: 0px solid black" /></span></p>

<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-CamelForums"></a><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/"
class="external-link" rel="nofollow">Camel Forums</a></h3>

<ul>
	<li><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Users-f465428.html" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow">Camel User Forum</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Camel-Development-f479097.html" class="external-link"
rel="nofollow">Camel Developer Forum</a></li>
</ul>


<h3><a name="DiscussionForums-MailingLists"></a>Mailing Lists</h3>

<p>If you prefer to use a mailing list instead then check out our <a href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists"
title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a>. Note that the Forums and <a href="/confluence/display/CAMEL/Mailing+Lists"
title="Mailing Lists">Mailing Lists</a> are kept in sync so its your choice which
you use.</p>
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